THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, is there any more clarity now on whether Hayes is legitimately interested in us or if it's the usual OM thing to get him to make us think we could get him and then "flipmas" him on back over to them closer to NSD? IF we're looking to take 1 more DL since McCrae is gone now, wouldn't he be #1 on the board if the interest is legitimate on his end?

We're recruiting him but we're not pressing him. Coaches are trying to see how legit his interest is. I'm sure he'll be here next week & he'll likely take an OV. Most believe he'll end up back at OM. I don't this is being orchestrated by OM but I also don't think our coaches will be caught in a bad position.

[Commercecomet24]

Well, they?re wrong.

Agreed.

[Todd4State]

Is Campbell working there or involved?

He said Keyes looks up to him but didn?t say anything about him being involved in any way.

[MD2020]

He said Keyes looks up to him but didn?t say anything about him being involved in any way.

Gotcha, thanks.

[maroonmania]

Is Campbell working there or involved?

Hopefully Larry is involved and not Jason.

[MetEdDawg]

Groce committing tomorrow. He committing to us?

[KOdawg1]

Groce committing tomorrow. He committing to us?

Prolly

[hacker]

Bell just rang

[hacker]

It's Groce

[Cooterpoot]

Glad we could pull our 4th option..

[MetEdDawg]

Glad we could pull our 4th option..

Difference in Moorhead and Mullen is that Mullen's 4th option would have been an in state 2 star or low 3 star with no D1 offers.

Moorhead's 4th option is an 87 overall previously committed to Nebraska that's just barely outside the Top 500

I'll take Moorhead in that regard 10 times out of 10

[Pipedream]

Glad we could pull our 4th option..

Just remember, everyone says we're recruiting better and brining in a different level of talent. It's what is supposed to make everyone feel better.

[MetEdDawg]

Just remember, everyone says we're recruiting better and brining in a different level of talent. It's what is supposed to make everyone feel better.

Ummmm...we are.

Just remember, if you truly believe Groce is our 4th option, you compare that to when Mullen would get a 4th option and Moorhead wins by a landslide.

Moorhead wasn't going to come in and never miss. That's stupid to think question is when he does miss, can we do better at elevating the lower portion of our class.

If Groce is in fact a 4th option, then Moorhead has done part of his job at elevating recruiting.

[Really Clark?]

Ummmm...we are.

Just remember, if you truly believe Groce is our 4th option, you compare that to when Mullen would get a 4th option and Moorhead wins by a landslide.

Moorhead wasn't going to come in and never miss. That's stupid to think question is when he does miss, can we do better at elevating the lower portion of our class.

If Groce is in fact a 4th option, then Moorhead has done part of his job at elevating recruiting.

Landslide? Not really and it?s just a site ranking, how many 4th or 5th options or low ranked 2 or 3 stars did our previous staff recognize and develop in good players or put into the NFL. You get out side of the Top 10 in recruiting the players are a lot closer than people want to believe and it?s about fit and development. I?m not saying it?s not good in his recruiting but you are way over stating how much better the actual players we are signing compared to previous staff. When signing day is done we will finish what? 25th-30th in rankings? That?s not a nickel worth of difference than what we have been getting player wise for the last decade. Except Mullen?s lowest ranked class produced very well on the field. It?s finding the right player and developing them.

[1bigdawg]

Moorhead wasn't going to come in and never miss. That's stupid to think the question is when he does miss, can we do better at elevating the lower portion of our class.

This is important. Moorhead is not really out recruiting Mullen so much in the top of the class, but he is doing much better at getting better-ranked players in the 10-25 range. That should mean more contributors and competition for positions, which we have already seen at some positions.

[KOdawg1]

Guys, we will always recruit at around the same level no matter who the coach is. Somewhere in the 20-30 range with maybe a top 20 class sprinkled in. The only way we get beyond that is if we hire a coach like Freeze who cheats his ass off, which I think we can all agree isnt what we want.

Keeping most of the top kids in state, making sure classes are balanced (something Mullen struggled at), and taking advantage of our Juco system are what will give us the best chance to be successful.

[Ari Gold]

Glad we could pull our 4th option..

You can bang on Joe all you want, but recruiting is one phase of his HC job he gets..
And if Groce is like you say our 4th option then that’s a pretty ****ing good pull...
Wheat and Groce is a solid LB combo for this class.

[msstate7]

Guys, we will always recruit at around the same level no matter who the coach is. Somewhere in the 20-30 range with maybe a top 20 class sprinkled in. The only way we get beyond that is if we hire a coach like Freeze who cheats his ass off, which I think we can all agree isnt what we want.

Keeping most of the top kids in state, making sure classes are balanced (something Mullen struggled at), and taking advantage of our Juco system are what will give us the best chance to be successful.

So how'd we do with the historic Mississippi class last season?

[KOdawg1]

So how'd we do with the historic Mississippi class last season?

We shit the bed. I will be the first to tell you that.

[msstate7]

We shit the bed. I will be the first to tell you that.

Seems like we do a lot of that these days... last season only 8 wins, lack luster class with immense talent in state, and hoping for 6 wins this year.