Who could be our Ed Orgeron

[DownwardDawg]

This fascination with Hud is beyond stupid. Guy is a bat shit crazy ass hat. Some of the crazy bullshit he did at ULL was borderline insanity and quite frankly, it was creepy as hell.

There is no fascination with Hud that I see. I doubt he’s anyone’s first choice. But you’re too blinded by your dislike of him to see that he’s exactly what this thread is about. Hell, he’s probably a much better coach than Ogre. He’s certainly won more than Ogre did early in his career. I hope we hire someone better for sure, but Hud fits what this particular thread is about.

[Liverpooldawg]

Mark Hudspeth

So, we hire him. Where will the NCAA rent office space in Starkville? I want to know so I can buy it first to rent to them. He will never be the head coach at MSU.

[parabrave]

Greg Knox.

[Todd4State]

This fascination with Hud is beyond stupid. Guy is a bat shit crazy ass hat. Some of the crazy bullshit he did at ULL was borderline insanity and quite frankly, it was creepy as hell.

Same could be said about Ed Orgeron and his time at Ole Miss if we're being honest here. And Tennessee for that matter.

[Todd4State]

So, we hire him. Where will the NCAA rent office space in Starkville? I want to know so I can buy it first to rent to them. He will never be the head coach at MSU.

The NCAA office in Starkville has Bracky Brett on the door. He'll gladly tell them all.

[TheLostDawg]

This fascination with Hud is beyond stupid. Guy is a bat shit crazy ass hat. Some of the crazy bullshit he did at ULL was borderline insanity and quite frankly, it was creepy as hell.

No idea what you are talking about. I didn't like the HUD idea of HC but if we're looking to go the route of LSU, he's it. I like him as a person and recruiter. We would just have to have stellar coordinators if we did get him and explain to him what we're expecting out of him. He's also one that might take off if a blue blood offered down the line. I think that we're going to have to hire an older coach that's good and pay the guy good money if we want someone long term due to the money coaches are getting paid now and the fact we can only sign someone to four years at a time. Not someone past their prime but someone that's ready to make one last stop. That's why I think it's risky to hire a young up and coming. We haven't yet shown that we're winning to pay to keep a good HC along with a formidable staff much less keep them all year to year. We'll just be doing this same dance year after year until those things change

[Todd4State]

No idea what you are talking about. I didn't like the HUD idea of HC but if we're looking to go the route of LSU, he's it. I like him as a person and recruiter. We would just have to have stellar coordinators if we did get him and explain to him what we're expecting out of him. He's also one that might take off if a blue blood offered down the line. I think that we're going to have to hire an older coach that's good and pay the guy good money if we want someone long term due to the money coaches are getting paid now and the fact we can only sign someone to four years at a time. Not someone past their prime but someone that's ready to make one last stop. That's why I think it's risky to hire a young up and coming. We haven't yet shown that we're winning to pay to keep a good HC along with a formidable staff much less keep them all year to year. We'll just be doing this same dance year after year until those things change

I think hiring Hud wouldn't move the needle with the media. But I think it would be a good move for MSU more than likely because I think he would have success at MSU whether people like him or not- and let's be honest Dan and Jackie both had people at MSU that didn't particularly care for them too so we're not going to please everyone here.

My guess is he would probably bring in Will Hall and Ron Roberts as coordinators unless he can get Shoop to stay. One good thing about Hud is he is familiar with both of our previous two staffs so he probably has a good idea if he wants to keep someone like Marcus Johnson or not. He would also probably keep Hughes, bring in Bumphis to coach WR's, keep T-Buck, among other things.

[deadheaddawg]

Who will be Moorhead's LSU?

[Indndawg]

We caught lightning in a bottle with Mullen. He was an up and coming OC with a gold resume from the SEC. However, we are not going to find an Ed O., unless we open the pocketbook and hire better assistants. Heck, Ed O. is what he is because of the coordinators, and he is the recruiter.

and all night

[Sienfield]

No we don't need to get off of Hud. Just like Coach O was a major question mark for LSU a couple of years ago. And I bet if you asked LSU fans at that time if they would replace Les Miles with Coach O they would say hell no.

The reality is MSU has been missing the mark at head coach by trying to find a genius play caller when what we really need is a CEO coach that is not married to a system and allows coordinators to do their jobs. Just like Jackie.

I see what you did there.

[ShotgunDawg]

Lol, very true. People forget those antics, I guess.

Who will be Moorhead's LSU?

I could see Pitt

[msstate7]

Who will be Moorhead's LSU?

More like muschamp's South Carolina

[AROB44]

I may be alone in the wilderness, but hiring HUD because he can recruit Mississippi doesn't seem like a very good reason because I don't think we can win with mostly Mississippi talent. Mississippi high schools are poorly coached and recruits are not as ready for college football as say Ala or La high school players. I'm just not sold on Hud...

[R2Dawg]

My three:

1. Joe Judge. Has coached under both Saban and Bellicheck. Has coached all three phases of the game. MSU is possibly his dream job. He's still pretty young though- which could mean he is the guy after the next guy for us.

2. Shane Beamer. Assistant HC at Oklahoma. Has also coached in all three phases of the game. Wife is from the Starkville area or at the very least Mississippi. Is considered a good recruiter. Has been under his Dad, Kirby Smart at Georgia, Spurrier, and Fulmer as well as Lincoln Riley. He has probably made a lot of connections in the industry with every coach in America going to Oklahoma for offensive ideas. Has coached at MSU.

3. Hud. Would recruit well in Mississippi. Would probably run Dan's offense or something similar. Has won everywhere he has been except for when ULL was on probation because of David Saunders as collateral damage in the Ole Miss investigation. Would likely be able to bring in Will Hall to run the offense.

That is a pretty good list.

In about 20 years, bringing the Dak back.

[gravedigger]

Who in the coaching ranks could be for us what Ed Orgeron is for LSU?

Someone from the state, passionate and relentless, can connect with the kids, recruit, and understands MSU.

Is there anyone that is working their way up that might could be that for us? I really think that's what it will take to get us to where we want to be. Someone that thinks MSU is the greatest job in the world and the only place they want to be.

Is there anyone we could be watching or paying attention to that might down the road be that for us?

Couple of years ago, we ran him off the field and everyone was wonder when he would be fired. Are you insinuating that we should do like them and find a coach Orgeron, or do like them and give our guy time like Orgeron was given?

[TheLostDawg]

Couple of years ago, we ran him off the field and everyone was wonder when he would be fired. Are you insinuating that we should do like them and find a coach Orgeron, or do like them and give our guy time like Orgeron was given?

I believe that he's trying to say is we need a CEO coach with good coordinators. The thing with that is we don't pay our coaches enough to keep top assistants

[gravedigger]

I believe that he's trying to say is we need a CEO coach with good coordinators. The thing with that is we don't pay our coaches enough to keep top assistants

I dont doubt that is a problem. I think he is pointing out that unless you are advocating Hudspeth, there isnt an Orgeron out there without considering that they had to endure some frustration before this season WITH Orgeron. Something our message board fans have already stopped considering.

ETA: anyone who has any understanding of President Keenum understand Hudspeth will not be our headcoach.

[Jarius]

The only real options are HUD and Hopson and I don’t want either of them.

[dawgday166]

If you add in that LSU is Ogre's dream job and is where he wants to be ... that narrows an already very narrow field down considerably.

Might could find a CEO type coach but one that isn't using MSU as a stepping stone ... not likely.

[basedog]

Name me one Coach like Coach O that we could get to boil crawfish like that Cajun talking what he say Coach***

O is the perfect fit for Lsu and we ain't nowhere near what they are in football.