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    Pumped for Basketball

    PG- Nick Weatherspoon- Junior, top 30 4/5star(2 years playing/starting)

    SG- Tyson Carter, Senior, top 100 4 star(3 years playing/starting)

    SF- Robert Woodard, Sophomore, top 60 4 star(1 year playing/starting)

    PF- Reggie Perry, Sophomore, top 30 4/5 Star, Mcdonald?s AA(1 year playing/starting)

    C- Abdul Ado, Senior, top 100 4 star(3 years playing/starting)

    Great mix of Jr/Sr veteran leadership and experience with extremely talented Sophmores coming into their second year.

    -Hard nosed, talented, experienced PG who can set the tone defensively and can distribute well enough, drive to the basket and also has a great midrange game.

    -Senior SG that has made many big shots and has seen and knows what the SEC is about. Has gotten better every year.

    -Talented, do it all, jack of all trades SF who works hard rebounding, defense, can hit the 3 and also has a good midrange game. Woodard is a vital piece of this team. Plays with high energy and very smart player.

    -Super talented possible early first round draft pick PF who has the ability to take over a game. Hit Freshman wall last year but this should be his breakout year especially after seeing him play this Summer.

    -Senior C with high motor, hustle, works for his rebounds and is not concerned with scoring just doing his job and gives maximum effort every possession. Perfect complimentary piece to our scoring PF.

    This starting 5 has the perfect mix and combination of things a basketball team needs to be successful. We have some Experience coming off the bench downlow with Datcher and Feazell and ultra talented guards in Stewart and Molinar. How our bench plays and how the younger guys develops is the difference in making a run and I think this team has all the ingredients that it takes.

    As good as Q was last year I think we relied on him too much at times, this year we will need everyone to do their thing and they know their roles and will be able to play better as a unit IMO. Really looking forward to Basketball season and think this could be a special year.

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    Me too!
    Praise The Lord and Go Dawgs!!!

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    When Nick is eligible again, this group most resembles Howland's teams at Pitt. Might not always be the most pretty basketball but physical, muscular guys who will get after it. If they still allowed teams to be physical on defense then I would be even more optimistic but I still like this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovertDawg View Post
    When Nick is eligible again, this group most resembles Howland's teams at Pitt. Might not always be the most pretty basketball but physical, muscular guys who will get after it. If they still allowed teams to be physical on defense then I would be even more optimistic but I still like this team.
    Yea I think with Nick being out to start we might stumble out of the gates but will get progressively better as the year goes along. Plus we will get some other guys like Molinar and Stewart some needed experience while he is out.

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    Same here. I'm excited for basketball.

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    Good opening analysis. Are the below averages realistic for this year's team?

    STARTERS (65 ppg)
    - Nick (14 ppg, 4.5 apg)
    - Tyson (15 ppg)
    - Woodard (12 ppg / 6 rpg / 3 apg)
    - Reggie (16 ppg / 10 rpg)
    - Ado (8 ppg / 8 rpg / 3.5 blocks)

    OFF THE BENCH (22 ppg)
    - Molinar (6 ppg)
    - DJ Stewart (8 ppg)
    - Datcher/Oduro (8 ppg combined, 6 rpg)

    That's 87 points per game. I know CBH likes to let the guys push the pace, but is this realistic cuz 87 points will win a lot of games? Defensively, we should be strong on the perimeter, Ado at the 5 should be a plus and there won't be many ppl pushing Perry or Woodard around.

    Somebody help me temper these wooly expectations, because I've been burned too many times in the past.

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    Pumped and excited to get it started UH Gain.

    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but I've had my guts punched too many times with Howland.

    Gonna stay in MO Mood till they show me they can make an ounce of noise in the big dance. Their last game still gives me flatulence and irritable bowel syndrome.

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    Wow!!! It took seven posts before we got a "woe is me" and/or "Howland sucks" post!

    Given that the average for the last several years has been 3-4, I'm thinking we're starting on a positive note!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCsMGs View Post
    Wow!!! It took seven posts before we got a "woe is me" and/or "Howland sucks" post!

    Given that the average for the last several years has been 3-4, I'm thinking we're starting on a positive note!
    How many years has he been here? How many big dance wins does he have since being here? Is that no longer our measuring stick? How much longer do we wait while lower ranked classes compete in the big dance while we (with our highly ranked classes) continue to blow double digit leads to the likes of Liberty in the big dance?

    Time to shit or get off the pot. Please save this post cuz I'd love to eat it during early 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    How many years has he been here? How many big dance wins does he have since being here? Is that no longer our measuring stick? How much longer do we wait while lower ranked classes compete in the big dance while we (with our highly ranked classes) continue to blow double digit leads to the likes of Liberty in the big dance?

    Time to shit or get off the pot. Please save this post cuz I'd love to eat it during early 2020.
    Would have been the perfect post if you had just added Fire Joe...

    Yeah the Big Dance Wins measuring stick... That stick is pretty small here at MSU.. Haven’t been to the sweet 16 since what 96.. ??
    but yeah let’s bitch and moan about improving every year since CBH has been here..
    enjoy the season...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSOPdawg View Post
    Good opening analysis. Are the below averages realistic for this year's team?

    STARTERS (65 ppg)
    - Nick (14 ppg, 4.5 apg)
    - Tyson (15 ppg)
    - Woodard (12 ppg / 6 rpg / 3 apg)
    - Reggie (16 ppg / 10 rpg)
    - Ado (8 ppg / 8 rpg / 3.5 blocks)

    OFF THE BENCH (22 ppg)
    - Molinar (6 ppg)
    - DJ Stewart (8 ppg)
    - Datcher/Oduro (8 ppg combined, 6 rpg)

    That's 87 points per game. I know CBH likes to let the guys push the pace, but is this realistic cuz 87 points will win a lot of games? Defensively, we should be strong on the perimeter, Ado at the 5 should be a plus and there won't be many ppl pushing Perry or Woodard around.
    wouldn’t surprise me. We will be really good on the boards and will win in a different way than we have in the past under Holland IMO.
    Last edited by ScoobaDawg; 11-03-2019 at 08:51 PM.

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    Ado is classified as a redshirt junior. Not a senior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    How many years has he been here? How many big dance wins does he have since being here? Is that no longer our measuring stick? How much longer do we wait while lower ranked classes compete in the big dance while we (with our highly ranked classes) continue to blow double digit leads to the likes of Liberty in the big dance?

    Time to shit or get off the pot. Please save this post cuz I'd love to eat it during early 2020.
    Just pumpin' in a little sunshine, brotha!!!

    Come out from under that dark cloud...there's a whole 'nother world out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    How many years has he been here? How many big dance wins does he have since being here? Is that no longer our measuring stick? How much longer do we wait while lower ranked classes compete in the big dance while we (with our highly ranked classes) continue to blow double digit leads to the likes of Liberty in the big dance?

    Time to shit or get off the pot. Please save this post cuz I'd love to eat it during early 2020.
    He took over a program that had won 13 SEC games total the last 3 years. He's improved every year his 4 years here. He has us on equal or better footing than the program has been since 2007 or 08. If you're upset about that Liberty loss last year you likely haven't been happy with MSU basketball since 1996. Stan's won 4 NCAA games in 14 years.
    Last edited by Ifyouonlyknew; 11-03-2019 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    Pumped and excited to get it started UH Gain.

    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but I've had my guts punched too many times with Howland.

    Gonna stay in MO Mood till they show me they can make an ounce of noise in the big dance. Their last game still gives me flatulence and irritable bowel syndrome.
    Take a Prilosec.
    Praise The Lord and Go Dawgs!!!

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    mite be PMS......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    He took over a program that had won 13 SEC games total the last 3 years. He's improved every year his 4 years here. He has us on equal or better footing than the program has been since 2007 or 08. If you're upset about that Liberty loss last year you likely haven't been happy with MSU basketball since 1996. Stan's won 4 NCAA games in 14 years.
    You forgot to mention all those SEC West Banners....thought you'd sneak that by, eh?***

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    My prediction is 12-1 OOC, 12-6 in SEC. 24-7 overall and a 4 seed in NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    He took over a program that had won 13 SEC games total the last 3 years. He's improved every year his 4 years here. He has us on equal or better footing than the program has been since 2007 or 08. If you're upset about that Liberty loss last year you likely haven't been happy with MSU basketball since 1996. Stan's won 4 NCAA games in 14 years.
    I've yet to understand the Howland hate. By the end of season 3, he had us back to where we have been the majority of the past 3 decades - a decent SEC bubble team that with a run could make some noise. I think this is the season he pays off with a nice NCAA run.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    I've yet to understand the Howland hate. By the end of season 3, he had us back to where we have been the majority of the past 3 decades - a decent SEC bubble team that with a run could make some noise. I think this is the season he pays off with a nice NCAA run.
    The SEC is also a lot more competitive from top to bottom now than it has been at any time in history. There used to be 5-6 teams that had a chance at being good and now that is probably 10. Just like the money has improved the football programs, the same can be said for basketball.

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