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    QB Transfer Portal is Filling Up

    So what happens when the transfer portal becomes over saturated with QBs or can it?

    KT will enter the transfer portal following the season
    Grant Tisdale from OM, 4 star QB, just entered the transfer portal yesterday
    Joey Gatewood just entered the transfer portal today.

    So, where is this going?

    What QB is LSU going to grab next year as a grad transfer?

    The end result of this IMO is that we'll never see the blue bloods down again, since they now have unlimited resources to fix a potential QB problem, which is the only reason they are usually down anyway.

    Secondly, seems like every college football team is about to be a QB injury away from disaster, which is honestly fine with me. I think that could bring about some parity.

    Lastly, if you're a G5 program, why would you ever sign a HS QB? Just get guys out of the transfer portal
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    I think where it is going is the schools who continue to sign high school guys are going to developed two to three deep QB's on roster. Yes some of the QB's going to leave but once you start doing the portal thing you can't go back. That school better hope a good one inters the portal or they are going to be screwed. OK has not developed a QB in a long time. Who will they get? Right now you will have both LSU and OK needed QB's.

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    If I was Ole Miss I would make Plumlee and jet sweep type running back or scat back and keep Tisdale. He can actually throw the ball worth a crap. He is better the Plumlee and Corrall to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNDawg35 View Post
    If I was Ole Miss I would make Plumlee and jet sweep type running back or scat back and keep Tisdale. He can actually throw the ball worth a crap. He is better the Plumlee and Corrall to be honest.
    I'm not sure Plumlee stays at Ole Miss under those circumstances. Plumlee signed with OM due to his ability to potentially play QB there
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    that's also what worried me about Moorhead. Instead of using the highly recruited guys he had, he blew up the qb room to go get stevens and then ends up playing the freshmen. I keep seeing lot of excuses by Moorhead and Rosebowl about him playing a freshmen. No, he chose to play a freshmen. he could have played KT this year and been no worse record wise.

    I think it's very important to find a coach who recruits to bring in guys and develops them and the qb room so we have a guy ready to roll every two years when the senior graduates. I just don't think the transfer portal is long term sustainable. just like this year we took a gamble and it was bust. Ole miss did that for a long time they didn't develop any qbs for about 12 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trojandawg View Post
    that's also what worried me about Moorhead. Instead of using the highly recruited guys he had, he blew up the qb room to go get stevens and then ends up playing the freshmen. I keep seeing lot of excuses by Moorhead and Rosebowl about him playing a freshmen. No, he chose to play a freshmen. he could have played KT this year and been no worse record wise.

    I think it's very important to find a coach who recruits to bring in guys and develops them and the qb room so we have a guy ready to roll every two years when the senior graduates. I just don't think the transfer portal is long term sustainable. just like this year we took a gamble and it was bust. Ole miss did that for a long time they didn't develop any qbs for about 12 years.
    There is risk either way we go. We might end up with Joe Burrow. We might end up with Tommy Stevens. Just because Stevens didn?t work out it doesn?t mean that we shouldn?t pursue that avenue. The odds are we end up with someone between Stevens and Burrow.

    KT just isn?t that good. I don?t know why we have some fans that can?t understand that possibility.

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    i just don't think we have seen enough of KT in the right offense to be able to come to that judgment. so far no qb has looked amazing in the Moorhead offense. We get a different coach in here, and KT might excel.

    i agree you may get a good qb and you might not, but you are lot better off if you aren't depending on it and developing your recruited qb's into a sustainable load and play. We need a qb developer on the staff no matter who is coach. If it's not the head guy, we need someone with experience under a qb developer as our QB coach. i'm not impressed at all with Breiner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    There is risk either way we go. We might end up with Joe Burrow. We might end up with Tommy Stevens. Just because Stevens didn?t work out it doesn?t mean that we shouldn?t pursue that avenue. The odds are we end up with someone between Stevens and Burrow.

    KT just isn?t that good. I don?t know why we have some fans that can?t understand that possibility.
    Good points. I think Shrader would have passed KT as some point anyway, so without Tommy coming here the can would just have been kicked down the road a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So what happens when the transfer portal becomes over saturated with QBs or can it?

    KT will enter the transfer portal following the season
    Grant Tisdale from OM, 4 star QB, just entered the transfer portal yesterday
    Joey Gatewood just entered the transfer portal today.

    So, where is this going?

    What QB is LSU going to grab next year as a grad transfer?

    The end result of this IMO is that we'll never see the blue bloods down again, since they now have unlimited resources to fix a potential QB problem, which is the only reason they are usually down anyway.

    Secondly, seems like every college football team is about to be a QB injury away from disaster, which is honestly fine with me. I think that could bring about some parity.

    Lastly, if you're a G5 program, why would you ever sign a HS QB? Just get guys out of the transfer portal
    And with Joey Gatewood gone, Cord Sandberg is now 1 play away from being a starting QB in our division. Nice**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    There is risk either way we go. We might end up with Joe Burrow. We might end up with Tommy Stevens. Just because Stevens didn?t work out it doesn?t mean that we shouldn?t pursue that avenue. The odds are we end up with someone between Stevens and Burrow.

    KT just isn?t that good. I don?t know why we have some fans that can?t understand that possibility.
    We don't know that at all! That's the problem. Shrader is graded on a curve that KT is not. Not to mention, Moorhead hasn't shown that he knows jack about QBs in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    We don't know that at all! That's the problem. Shrader is graded on a curve that KT is not. Not to mention, Moorhead hasn't shown that he knows jack about QBs in the first place.
    How is he graded on a “different curve”? I have seen both play and if I had to pick it would be Shrader without any hesitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trojandawg View Post
    that's also what worried me about Moorhead. Instead of using the highly recruited guys he had, he blew up the qb room to go get stevens and then ends up playing the freshmen. I keep seeing lot of excuses by Moorhead and Rosebowl about him playing a freshmen. No, he chose to play a freshmen. he could have played KT this year and been no worse record wise.

    I think it's very important to find a coach who recruits to bring in guys and develops them and the qb room so we have a guy ready to roll every two years when the senior graduates. I just don't think the transfer portal is long term sustainable. just like this year we took a gamble and it was bust. Ole miss did that for a long time they didn't develop any qbs for about 12 years.
    Agree with this. That is one thing Joe has messed up since he has been here. He messed up Fitz senior year then he completely blows up QB position this year over being stubborn over running "his" offense. We don't ever need to hire another guy stuck on one thing ever again. OK to have a history or bias but not just that is the only thing they can run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    How is he graded on a “different curve”? I have seen both play and if I had to pick it would be Shrader without any hesitation.
    Shrader -- so far-- has been a roughly 50% passer who can also run. Fitz and KT have both been knocked for being inaccurate passers who can run. "Well, he's a true freshman," you say; so was KT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    Shrader -- so far-- has been a roughly 50% passer who can also run. Fitz and KT have both been knocked for being inaccurate passers who can run. "Well, he's a true freshman," you say; so was KT.
    He's a 55% passer
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNDawg35 View Post
    ..... keep Tisdale....
    like they have a choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    He's a 55% passer
    But KT, who is a CAREER 46% passer and less of a rusher than Shrader is who should be given the shot.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    How is he graded on a ?different curve?? I have seen both play and if I had to pick it would be Shrader without any hesitation.
    When you compare the stats of KT versus Shrader - its not as clear cut as some would leave you to believe.

    I still think its been a mistake to not run the KT/Mullen offense this year. Now if KT is refusing to play - then I'm just wrong - but I haven't heard that at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    There is risk either way we go. We might end up with Joe Burrow. We might end up with Tommy Stevens. Just because Stevens didn?t work out it doesn?t mean that we shouldn?t pursue that avenue. The odds are we end up with someone between Stevens and Burrow.

    KT just isn?t that good. I don?t know why we have some fans that can?t understand that possibility.
    KT is better than Shrader. All this BS here can't play is coming from the Moorehead narrative that he was beat out. Here was under poor management of a coach who was biased. Shrader is a poor man Fitz right now. We haven't scored a TD in the 1st quarter since week 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    How is he graded on a “different curve”? I have seen both play and if I had to pick it would be Shrader without any hesitation.
    Then you're as bad as Joe. Shrader has won no games starting. KT is undefeated and beat a Heisman winner.

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    I think the entire KT QB conversation is a hindsight 20/20, crappy, stupide discussion.

    I'm the biggest Joe hater, but here are some thoughts.

    1. KT couldn't run Joe's offense & Stevens can when healthy.
    2. Blaming Joe for Stevens injuries is an insult to common sense & stupid.
    3. If you believe that bringing Stevens in hurt the locker room, then I can see your point. But I'd also add that a healthy productive Stevens would have a good locker room as well.
    4. Shrader is better than KT. He just is. In every facet, he's a better QB prospect. Don't argue this. If you think KT should've started so that we could preserve Shrader's RS, then Ok, but just realize that we would've been playing the 2nd best QB.

    I just find the entire KT discussion be a loser argument made by justifiably angry people looking to kill Joe. I can find plenty of things to destroy Joe with other than this & you should too because the KT conversation is stupid.
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