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Rosebowl got cornered on Facebook
So I'm going through my feed last night before bed and a recommendation pops up for the page Maroon Madness (I think that's it.) And there is an article about coaches to possibly replace Moorhead at State. Rosebowl chimes in with the company line: Joe Moorhead will be our coach next season and this isn't helping the situation etc,. Well, in the ensuing follow up posts someone posts the obvious: Steve, are we seriously gonna keep a coach that finishes 4-8? Steve's reply was an adamant: We aren't finishing 4-8. This lead to several people expressing their belief that we would finish 4-8 based on what they have seen this year. Then golden post from Rosebowl comes: Look if we were to somehow finish 4-8 then yes all bets are off about Joe being here next season. But I don't think we'll finish 4-8.
So, Rosebowl will tweet out assurances that Joe will be the coach next year but when he is cornered about the actually win/lose scenario to trigger a change he's not so adamant.
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And he also stated that the Rutgers rumors are false. Yet, I read about the Rutgers possibility on 247 from one of the other writers. Whatever, Joe will be here next year despite. All of the hope/speculation is wasted energy. We are Mississippi State.
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I’ve already told y’all if we win 5+ games, Moorhead is back barring somebody stupid paying the buyout. You can debate whether you think we’ll win certain games, but that’s the reality.
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Oooh! Rosebowl got owned didn't he!
He had to admit that if something neither he nor most rational thinking people think will happen happens, then Moorhead will be fired.
Gracious. Brutal.
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Everyone knows..... Rosebowl is taking the high road to protect recruiting. Nobody really knows what will take place after Thanksgiving.
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5-7 with a win over Arkansas, the absolute worst team in the SEC, and he should be gone. What this program has become in two seasons removed from Dan Mullen is inexcusable.
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It also depends on how we look getting to whatever record. If we get to 5-7 or 6-6 but the offense still looks like garbage and we have defensive or special teams TDs that win the game then the seat is probably still warm. Most fans remember the 2007 where we lucked into several wins even though the offense was still garbage. You can't be an offensive guru and have a crap offense. We have already heard the line of building something and progress is being made without getting actual results. Honestly, Joe probably gets less leeway because of what we went through with Croom.
We need to put up some points on A&M and Bama to at least show that his offense can work on teams who are in the top 50 defenses. Arkansas put points on both of those defenses so it would look really bad if we score less than 10. I would think everyone agrees that even if you agree that Moorhead is in a rebuild that we are further ahead than Arkansas.
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
Everyone knows..... Rosebowl is taking the high road to protect recruiting. Nobody really knows what will take place after Thanksgiving.
More people need to follow his lead.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
More people need to follow his lead.
I can appreciate the need to maintain some level of face for the program, but what we don't need is our own version of Yancy.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
It also depends on how we look getting to whatever record. If we get to 5-7 or 6-6 but the offense still looks like garbage and we have defensive or special teams TDs that win the game then the seat is probably still warm. Most fans remember the 2007 where we lucked into several wins even though the offense was still garbage. You can't be an offensive guru and have a crap offense. We have already heard the line of building something and progress is being made without getting actual results. Honestly, Joe probably gets less leeway because of what we went through with Croom.
We need to put up some points on A&M and Bama to at least show that his offense can work on teams who are in the top 50 defenses. Arkansas put points on both of those defenses so it would look really bad if we score less than 10. I would think everyone agrees that even if you agree that Moorhead is in a rebuild that we are further ahead than Arkansas.
Absolutely. Which means a loss to Arkansas should be the proverbial last straw. If Cheese shuts down our offense with that whip cream defense it's time.
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
Everyone knows..... Rosebowl is taking the high road to protect recruiting. Nobody really knows what will take place after Thanksgiving.
What really protects recruiting is winning games. That's not happening.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Absolutely. Which means a loss to Arkansas should be the proverbial last straw. If Cheese shuts down our offense with that whip cream defense it's time.
If we somehow win A&M, Abilene, and UM then I will still be pissed if we lose to Ark. Moorhead more than likely gets another year if he makes a bowl but his seat will be pretty warm going into the new year. He also desperately needs to win a bowl game.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
If we somehow win A&M, Abilene, and UM then I will still be pissed if we lose to Ark. Moorhead more than likely gets another year if he makes a bowl but his seat will be pretty warm going into the new year. He also desperately needs to win a bowl game.
Winning A&M would be so Croom. But so would losing to a pathetic Arkansas. Even if we somehow finish 6-6 and he comes back that seat will be uncomfortably warm. I can see him fired if we lose to Tulane and Shoop made interim.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Winning A&M would be so Croom. But so would losing to a pathetic Arkansas. Even if we somehow finish 6-6 and he comes back that seat will be uncomfortably warm. I can see him fired if we lose to Tulane and Shoop made interim.
Don?t insult Croom by comparing him to jomo
*....kinda *
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
I can appreciate the need to maintain some level of face for the program, but what we don't need is our own version of Yancy.
That isn't being Yancy. That's just having the best interests of MSU ahead of useless speculation. All the speculation does is make things harder.
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It’s interesting that Rosebowl is the only one adamantly denies the Rutgers rumors.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
More people need to follow his lead.
Message boards, articles, and social media isn’t what’s going to hurt recruiting. Going 4-8 and getting run is what will hurt recruiting and fans have zero to do with that. Steve is a part of the program in a way so he’s not going to react how fans do and that’s fine. I get that. But you have to exercise a little discernment here. If a newspaper in NJ says he’s a candidate, what’s to refute? Just because he’s a candidate doesn’t mean he’s going. Doesn’t mean he’s interested. So saying it’s a false report is a bit too strong imo. Now if the report says, “Moorehead set to leave MSU for Rutgers”, that’s a report that’s refutable.
And not really related to the contents of your post Liver or the OPs, can we please understand how coaching searches go in 2019? Long long long before there is official communication, there is back channel talks gauging interest. You better believe like you believe in 8lb baby Jesus that someone on JoMo’s team has at least traded a text with someone on that Rutgers search committee. That doesn’t mean Joe has communicated at all. His agent wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t communicate with those guys. The flip-side is that I all but guarantee you that Cohen has reached out to numerous coaches via back channels to gauge interest should this JoMo situation blow up. So knowing all that and having a grasp of everything going on, I can respect Steve’s stance but not necessarily buy it. Hopefully that’s parsed out well enough that no one gets offended.
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Originally Posted by
BeastMan
Message boards, articles, and social media isn’t what’s going to hurt recruiting. Going 4-8 and getting run is what will hurt recruiting and fans have zero to do with that. Steve is a part of the program in a way so he’s not going to react how fans do and that’s fine. I get that. But you have to exercise a little discernment here. If a newspaper in NJ says he’s a candidate, what’s to refute? Just because he’s a candidate doesn’t mean he’s going. Doesn’t mean he’s interested. So saying it’s a false report is a bit too strong imo. Now if the report says, “Moorehead set to leave MSU for Rutgers”, that’s a report that’s refutable.
And not really related to the contents of your post Liver or the OPs, can we please understand how coaching searches go in 2019? Long long long before there is official communication, there is back channel talks gauging interest. You better believe like you believe in 8lb baby Jesus that someone on JoMo’s team has at least traded a text with someone on that Rutgers search committee. That doesn’t mean Joe has communicated at all. His agent wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t communicate with those guys. The flip-side is that I all but guarantee you that Cohen has reached out to numerous coaches via back channels to gauge interest should this JoMo situation blow up. So knowing all that and having a grasp of everything going on, I can respect Steve’s stance but not necessarily buy it. Hopefully that’s parsed out well enough that no one gets offended.
That this board was used against us in the past in recruiting is a known fact. I would expect it still is. If I were recruiting against us I would use it.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
That this board was used against us in the past in recruiting is a known fact. I would expect it still is. If I were recruiting against us I would use it.
Dan Mullen is going to ___________ (insert school in blank) has hurt us a lot too.
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