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When did Joe lose you?
For me I developed serious doubts in the Ky game last year, lack of discipline and focus was evident in abundance. I have seen nothing since then except reinforcement of those bad signs and then too much more. Now fully convinced Joe must go.
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Last year against KSU when I noticed a OLINE that had preseasaon all SEC players on look lost when trying to line up.
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This past weekend against UT. Looked anemic on offense....need to be able to score more than 10 points against UT. Also, we intercepted 2 balls in the endzone. Let's say we don't and UT only converts FGs...it is suddenly 26-10 and looks even worse on paper than it currently does.
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Saturday. It’d been building. But I finally had a 100% inexcusable loss. Tenn is awful, and we had two weeks to prep.
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Originally Posted by
redstickdawg
For me I developed serious doubts in the Ky game last year, lack of discipline and focus was evident in abundance. I have seen nothing since then except reinforcement of those bad signs and then too much more. Now fully convinced Joe must go.
Same here. I started having doubts after that game but never came out calling for his head or supporting him but the UT game with 2 weeks to prepare makes it more than obvious now.
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Iowa
Think of all the advantages we had in that game and we lose. Gave him a pass on UK, they were good and at their place and it was early. Was close to losing me after UF but got me back with Auburn and A&M. There was no excuse for the bowl game and coaching really showed in that one. This year has just reinforced it.
Last edited by MoreCowbell; 10-14-2019 at 01:44 PM.
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Kentucky last year. I could tell that night that he was in over his head.
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I have a three strike policy when it comes to whether or not coaches should be let go. I don't try to get wound up over one terrible event but three in general that combine to a head coaches demise
Moorhead (note this is only so far in 19 games, not his full career at MSU since it obviously hasn't ended yet):
Strike 1: the loss to Florida, This was a must win, letting our former coach come up and beat us is inexcusable compounded by the fact we only scored 6 points
Strike 2: Iowa: we were the better team, this made me think we aren't trending the right direction seeing how we wasted our great defense
Strike 3: Tennessee: Awful game plan, terrible scheme, all after two weeks to practice. Cant do that.
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Last year in general. Our team was so talented that losing 5 seem hard to do.
Specifically after Kentucky and Florida, we failed to do what we were made for - run the ball.Our fans raised hell online.
Joe heard the complaints and then we play Auburn and run it down their throats. After the game Joe joked that he had forgotten how to coach on the Florida game and all would be well going forward.
We then had a bye. During this time I think Joe rethought about it and figured he was here to run his system. Did he believe in it or not?
We then go to LSU and score 3.
I knew then that he would not adjust to the strengths of his talent. And if he can?t or won?t do that then we will only be good with the perfect fit players that fits his system, which will never happen.
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Saturday, I held on as long as I could. I hope he makes us all look like idiots and is the greatest coach in school history, but I just don't see that happening at this point...
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FL and UK last year. Especially after the way he handled Auburn and then went totally away from that style of offense. And then when he basically said that State hadn’t won an SEC championship since 1941 so we shouldn’t have high expectations.
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When he refused to make Keytaon the starter after Fitz graduated.
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The TN game was the back breaker. We had two weeks to prepare and we come out unprepared, undisciplined, unorganized and you name it. I thought all those issues were supposed to have been addressed and corrected after the Auburn debacle, but they weren't.
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Kansas St. 2019
At halftime, I texted a friend in the stadium at the game and said this reminds me of Kentucky, 2018.
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I have been getting there slowly... and I mean slowly.
This look at me offense and snapping with 0-3 seconds on the play clock is killing me. Especially when he has the defense on it's heels and gasping for air. He should be going for the throat and have a half dozen plays ready to run and trust his QB to check out if it's not going to work. This year every week I lose it a little more.
That and the lack of his teams being ready. I mean common man, two delay of game penalties in the first four plays vs Auburn. That is shit show business.
I am done, I keep hoping he gets things corrected but after the 1st qtr vs TN, I just cut the TV off. I don't even go to games anymore. I am done until he gets this shit together or he gone. I will keep an eye open and always be pulling for State but as far as "believing"? Nope.
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Doubts happened at Florida (Kentucky was bad, but I decided to give him a flyer as a first time HC). I was close to done at LSU. At one point in that game, Fitz had 4 picks and 3 completions IIRC. Iowa was the straw that broke the camel's back. They were a putrid team.
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Florida and Kentucky. Then Iowa confirmed that he was not only bad, but unable to adjust, adapt, or change at all. At that point, there was no doubt he's the wrong guy. But I truly knew that he wasn't it during Kentucky last year. Unprepared, undisciplined, deer in headlights....and we've pretty much looked like that ever since
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For me it's been a process. There's no point in listing all the things that got us to this point because we all know them. But this UT game was what pushed me over the edge. Two weeks to prepare against a bad team and we looked as bad as we've ever looked. Former players tweeting about the culture change. The whole thing has culminated to this point of realizing it's off the rails and spiraling downward.
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