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Originally Posted by
smootness
I like both coaches, but to me Strong has proven himself more to this point than Franklin has.
Are you kidding me? Franklin has won 15 of his last 19 games while playing in the best conference in America. Strong can't even win his conference with the probable number 1 draft pick at qb.
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Originally Posted by
RICKRAYMADE
Are you kidding me? Franklin has won 15 of his last 19 games while playing in the best conference in America. Strong can't even win his conference with the probable number 1 draft pick at qb.
Franklin's wins in that stretch:
Wake Forest x 2
Kentucky x 2
Tennessee x 2
UMass x 2
2012 Ole Miss
Crappy Auburn from last year
Crappy Florida from this year
Austin Peay
UAB
NC State in last year's bowl
And then UGA this year. It is certainly phenomenal for Vandy, no doubt. But which of those games would Strong have lost? Maybe UGA? But I doubt it. That was the height of UGA's injury issues - they had JJ Green and Brendan Douglas at RB and no one outside of Conley at WR.
I would say Strong's wins in his last 2 bowl games - destroying Miami this year and beating last year's Florida team - are much better than anything Franklin has done in that time frame. So that's where I'm coming from. No, I'm not kidding you.
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Strong is about their 8th choice. So much for Texas getting anybody they want....
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Franklin's wins in that stretch:
Wake Forest x 2
Kentucky x 2
Tennessee x 2
UMass x 2
2012 Ole Miss
Crappy Auburn from last year
Crappy Florida from this year
Austin Peay
UAB
NC State in last year's bowl
And then UGA this year. It is certainly phenomenal for Vandy, no doubt. But which of those games would Strong have lost? Maybe UGA? But I doubt it. That was the height of UGA's injury issues - they had JJ Green and Brendan Douglas at RB and no one outside of Conley at WR.
I would say Strong's wins in his last 2 bowl games - destroying Miami this year and beating last year's Florida team - are much better than anything Franklin has done in that time frame. So that's where I'm coming from. No, I'm not kidding you.
+1
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Originally Posted by
RICKRAYMADE
Are you kidding me? Franklin has won 15 of his last 19 games while playing in the best conference in America. Strong can't even win his conference with the probable number 1 draft pick at qb.
How did he manage to end up winning the Sugar Bowl last year?
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I agree with Forde. Strong would be a horrific fit at Tejas. They don't need a recruiter out there. Strong is best suited for places like Lville, Tenn, Arky, etc. that don't have immediate talent and need to recruit FL, where he can do big damage. I could see him at FSU maybe, but not UF or Miami. Again, you don't need a recruiter there.
Texas just needs a good x/o guy. Malzahn is the best out there for them. If they can't get him get Petrino.
I figured Lville had weathered the storm when they dodged Tenn. But there again, it might be the best time for strong to jump since he will lose TB and play a much tougher schedule.
Last edited by Goat Holder; 01-04-2014 at 08:49 AM.
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Originally Posted by
engie
How did he manage to end up winning the Sugar Bowl last year?
Teddy Ballgame is the reason. Strong is a great D coach but marginal HC, had he not lucked in to Bridgewater he wouldn't have the record he has. Teddy was commited to da Canes then Shannon got axed, when they hired Golden he wanted to go in another direction at QB, so Bridgwater chose Strong and UL. I will be shocked if Strong last more than 3 years at UT. Franklin has done a tremendous job at Vandy considering the conference and the academic requirements. This was a panic hire by TX
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And what if Strong lands another elite QB at UT? Texas is loaded with them. Two heisman winners come to mind...
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I'm saying the talent on his team vs the talent on Louisville's team. You can't possibly think Vandy is as talented as Louisville? Plus, at TX, the talent will be exponentially better so yeah, I think Franklin would do better
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Originally Posted by
Covercorner2
And what if Strong lands another elite QB at UT? Texas is loaded with them. Two heisman winners come to mind...
That is a Strong (pardon the pun)what if, the guy has hardly if ever recruited TX, and if he plans on Cruitin FL and not TX he will be a disaster. Also, Mack had his pick of QB's and couldnt do shit with them. Im just saying Strong is not going to be the savior that TX wanted. He was a 6-6 coach in the Big Least/AAC before he got Bridgwater
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Originally Posted by
chainedup_Dawg
I'm saying the talent on his team vs the talent on Louisville's team. You can't possibly think Vandy is as talented as Louisville? Plus, at TX, the talent will be exponentially better so yeah, I think Franklin would do better
Whose fault is it that Louisville is so talented?
They both inherited equal dumpster fires.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
That is a Strong (pardon the pun)what if, the guy has hardly if ever recruited TX, and if he plans on Cruitin FL and not TX he will be a disaster. Also, Mack had his pick of QB's and couldnt do shit with them. Im just saying Strong is not going to be the savior that TX wanted. He was a 6-6 coach in the Big Least/AAC before he got Bridgwater
I was wondering about his recruiting strategy also. Strong lives in the Miami area as far as recruiting goes. If he can cherry pick a few guys there, he should, but most his recruits should be texas guys. I'm sure he'll hire an offensive/defensive/recruiting cood from texas to help out recruiting. I'm not sure recruiting texas is that big of a deal though. If strong can evaluate well, he'll be fine bc the texas name recruits the best in texas by itself IMO
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Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
That is a Strong (pardon the pun)what if, the guy has hardly if ever recruited TX, and if he plans on Cruitin FL and not TX he will be a disaster. Also, Mack had his pick of QB's and couldnt do shit with them. Im just saying Strong is not going to be the savior that TX wanted. He was a 6-6 coach in the Big Least/AAC before he got Bridgwater
Say what? He inherited a frigging dumpster fire at Louisville. The fact he went bowling every year was impressive in it's own right.
So, ultimately, you don't think Strong will get elite QB talent at Texas? You know -- the #1 school in a state that produced 33% of the starting QBs both in the NFL -- and in this year's playoffs?
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You guys love the term "dumpster fire."
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I hope Ogre takes a job in China. I don't want that bastard within 18 hours of Mississippi. We'll be battling Tulane or ULaLa for 2 stars again.
Strong to Texas is a great hire IMO. Sumlin can walk into any Texas kids house and walk out with momma melting like butter. Now he's got to compete with Strong. This hire will help us too. A&M wi be fighting Texas, OU, and LSU for Texas talent again instead of just taking whoever they can get 10 months before signing day.
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Originally Posted by
beerfarley
You guys love the term "dumpster fire."
it's one of my favorites. Ole Miss should've coined it under Nutt.
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Only reason I can think this hire is a homerun is because Texas' defense has by and large sucked big donkey balls of late. Strong can fix that. Offensively, I hope he has a good O coordinator lined up because just having a Teddy Ballgame ain't gonna cut it in the Big 12. This seems like a save face hire after 5-10 people said no thanks.
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Time will tell but IMO this was not the best hire TX could have made, go ask the College football matrix guy I bet he will agree with me on this
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Originally Posted by
engie
How did he manage to end up winning the Sugar Bowl last year?
Because Florida did't want to be there. Futhermore, look at Florida this year. Florida had no interest in playing in that game. Just like Bama/Utah a few years back.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Because Florida did't want to be there. Futhermore, look at Florida this year. Florida had no interest in playing in that game. Just like Bama/Utah a few years back.
You whiffed on my point. Read what I quoted...If he can't win his conference, how did he end up there in the first place?
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