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    Observations from Steve

    Steve was on Bo this am and said from pretty good things about the offense.

    > Zuber is the real deal. He has made the DBs up their game. He can cut your ankles with a juke. Guidry has also improved by competing with Zuber.

    > The offense looks light years better than last year. Tommy Stevens is the real deal too.

    > KT is staying. In fact expect some two QB sets with one of them lined up as a receiver.

    > Nick Gibson had the best camp of his career. He's a solid backup for KH. Also expect two back sets utilizing both RBs.

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    Sounds like KT will have a role similar to what TS had at PSU while TM was QB.

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    Hopefully this is truthful and not just sunshine blown up our arses. If most of this is true then our offense could take a big jump which is needed if the rumors of defensive players suspended is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Hopefully this is truthful and not just sunshine blown up our arses. If most of this is true then our offense could take a big jump which is needed if the rumors of defensive players suspended is true.
    I'm a joe skeptic for sure, but I do expect the offense to progress nicely this year. I just think the defense coming back to earth (esp considering gay and Autry) will offset the offensive improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'm a joe skeptic for sure, but I do expect the offense to progress nicely this year. I just think the defense coming back to earth (esp considering gay and Autry) will offset the offensive improvement.
    I agree but if our offense actually improves then even with defensive regression we should win 7-8 games. UM and Ark - we could have named the score and UK lost more on defense than us even considering Gay and Autry. UT is down several Oline plus Dline guys. We return almost our entire Offense except 2 interior Oline (they were really good but we actually have really good replacements) and a QB that didn't fit the offense no matter how great a runner he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I agree but if our offense actually improves then even with defensive regression we should win 7-8 games. UM and Ark - we could have named the score and UK lost more on defense than us even considering Gay and Autry. UT is down several Oline plus Dline guys. We return almost our entire Offense except 2 interior Oline (they were really good but we actually have really good replacements) and a QB that didn't fit the offense no matter how great a runner he was.
    All this doom and gloom about the defense is b/c we were spoiled by what we had on the field last year. We will be back to an average SEC defense next year but our offensive output will be able to compensate against most defenses not named Bama, LSU and Auburn. And even then those defenses won't shut down our offense.

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    Man.. I'm just ready to see how TS and Zuber do.. We shouldn't struggle too much no matter what in the first 2 games. But won't truly know anything for another 5 weeks likely of how special they could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Sounds like KT will have a role similar to what TS had at PSU while TM was QB.
    I'm curious if they will use all combinations as passer and receiver. Both can run, both can throw, with Stevens possibly a littler better passer. I know Stevens can catch, not sure if KT can catch. He dropped the only pass in the Outback Bowl.

    IF we will run formations with two running backs, then we may run a formation with Stevens/KT as QB, and both Kylin Hill and KT/Stevens in the backfield. The options!

    At Penn State, there was a successful play (multiple times) where Stevens lined up as a WR, then at the snap to McSorley Stevens ran to the backfield, took the handoff for an end around, then ran or passed depending on what the defense was giving up. Like the RB pass but with a much better passer. And of course, the QB had the option to not handoff the ball to Stevens and either run it, pass it downfield, or pass it to Stevens in the flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    All this doom and gloom about the defense is b/c we were spoiled by what we had on the field last year. We will be back to an average SEC defense next year but our offensive output will be able to compensate against most defenses not named Bama, LSU and Auburn. And even then those defenses won't shut down our offense.
    I am not going to say yes or no to this but great defenses do that to people when you make them one dimensional. Last year we couldn't pass well enough to overcome it so hopefully we can this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I am not going to say yes or no to this but great defenses do that to people when you make them one dimensional. Last year we couldn't pass well enough to overcome it so hopefully we can this year.
    That's very true, but I don't think we will be one dimensional this time. (crosses fingers)

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    - Steve doesn't know if the offense will be better. He hasn't seen it.
    - However, it's a FACT that we are more talented on offense this year. The QB & WR are a definite upgrade & the OL should be a push at worst.
    - Let's wait & see what exactly the suspensions are on defense before we start thinking our defense will be worse because of them.
    - In a perfect world, the best way to disguise the weakness of our DL is too get ahead in games & put opposing offenses in passing situations
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Steve was on Bo this am and said from pretty good things about the offense.

    > Zuber is the real deal. He has made the DBs up their game. He can cut your ankles with a juke. Guidry has also improved by competing with Zuber.

    > The offense looks light years better than last year. Tommy Stevens is the real deal too.

    > KT is staying. In fact expect some two QB sets with one of them lined up as a receiver.

    > Nick Gibson had the best camp of his career. He's a solid backup for KH. Also expect two back sets utilizing both RBs.
    I keep seeing us using two te sets and two rb sets. This is completely different that what joe has done his entire career. He's a 1 te 1 rb guy 99% of the time. Maybe he's adapting. We will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    - Steve doesn't know if the offense will be better. He hasn't seen it.
    - However, it's a FACT that we are more talented on offense this year. The QB & WR are a definite upgrade & the OL should be a push at worst.
    - Let's wait & see what exactly the suspensions are on defense before we start thinking our defense will be worse because of them.
    - In a perfect world, the best way to disguise the weakness of our DL is too get ahead in games & put opposing offenses in passing situations

    I agree on the more talent on offense.....
    As well as the part about getting leads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Steve was on Bo this am and said from pretty good things about the offense.

    > Zuber is the real deal. He has made the DBs up their game. He can cut your ankles with a juke. Guidry has also improved by competing with Zuber.

    > The offense looks light years better than last year. Tommy Stevens is the real deal too.

    > KT is staying. In fact expect some two QB sets with one of them lined up as a receiver.

    > Nick Gibson had the best camp of his career. He's a solid backup for KH. Also expect two back sets utilizing both RBs.

    The only thing I want to know is....

    Are we going to huddle for 5 seconds, come out of huddle, wait 3-5 seconds, look over to the sideline for 3-5 seconds, change our lineup, wait another 3-5 seconds, and then snap the ball???

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    Quote Originally Posted by msudawglb View Post
    The only thing I want to know is....

    Are we going to huddle for 5 seconds, come out of huddle, wait 3-5 seconds, look over to the sideline for 3-5 seconds, change our lineup, wait another 3-5 seconds, and then snap the ball???
    Supposedly a lot of that time wasted was due to Nick being slow to process the calls and the pre-snap reads. To add to that, Kylin said in a 247 interview a few days ago that Nick was also having to help other players get lined up last year, which if taken at face value means we had a pretty major blind leading the blind situation going on pre-snap. If anything is better this year, it's going to be getting the call in and getting lined up with a QB who has 3+ years in the offense and everyone else being a year wiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I keep seeing us using two te sets and two rb sets. This is completely different that what joe has done his entire career. He's a 1 te 1 rb guy 99% of the time. Maybe he's adapting. We will see.
    He didn't change a thing last year, why would he now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    Supposedly a lot of that time wasted was due to Nick being slow to process the calls and the pre-snap reads. To add to that, Kylin said in a 247 interview a few days ago that Nick was also having to help other players get lined up last year, which if taken at face value means we had a pretty major blind leading the blind situation going on pre-snap. If anything is better this year, it's going to be getting the call in and getting lined up with a QB who has 3+ years in the offense and everyone else being a year wiser.
    Seems the whipping post is Fitz for all things wrong with our offense last year. I’m not buying it.

    Bleeding the clock to zero was on JoMo. It didn’t happen during the Mullen era with the same personnel.

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    Well you certainly recapped what he said. But that wasn?t my interpretation on somethings. For instance he did talk about KT being at home in Starkville but I?m almost positive He qualified everything he said on that subject with ?you never know? at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Seems the whipping post is Fitz for all things wrong with our offense last year. I’m not buying it.

    Bleeding the clock to zero was on JoMo. It didn’t happen during the Mullen era with the same personnel.
    Joe is going to have a check to the sideline after the defense lines up almost every play, that much is on him. That may not be totally viable in today's SEC, but it's probably not going to to change at least for a while. But his PSU offenses moved much faster than we did last year, so it was obviously at least partially on the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Seems the whipping post is Fitz for all things wrong with our offense last year. I’m not buying it.

    Bleeding the clock to zero was on JoMo. It didn’t happen during the Mullen era with the same personnel.
    Uh, we weren't running ******* offense anymore.

    They didn't look to the sideline at Penn State b/c McSorely knew what he was doing. I expect the same from Tommy.

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