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    ESPN final preseason FPI

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...cs/teamratings

    Sec teams:
    2. Bama
    3. Georgia
    4. LSU
    8. Florida
    9. Auburn
    11. aTm
    15. Tenn
    16. State
    18. South Carolina
    19. Mizzou
    40. Kentucky
    41. OM
    50. Vandy
    60. Ark

    Others of note:
    99. ULL
    74. USM
    57. Kansas state

    It has our win/loss at 7.7/4.3

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    I wonder what's up with Bill Connelly? Since he works there now I would presume ESPN is going to publish the S&P+ on their site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    http://www.espn.com/college-football...cs/teamratings

    Sec teams:
    2. Bama
    3. Georgia
    4. LSU
    8. Florida
    9. Auburn
    11. aTm
    15. Tenn
    16. State
    18. South Carolina
    19. Mizzou
    40. Kentucky
    41. OM
    50. Vandy
    60. Ark

    Others of note:
    99. ULL
    74. USM
    57. Kansas state

    It has our win/loss at 7.7/4.3
    I was thinking about this when it came out earlier. I would love to see the final preseason vs end of season results for the history of this.
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    ... and some people think Kentucky and Kansas State are going to come into Starkville and beat us.

    Yes, anything's possible, but we're a lot more likely to beat Auburn, Tennessee, or Texas A&M, than we are to lose one of our September home games.

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    Don't quite understand that Tenn love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Don't quite understand that Tenn love.
    May be more about who they have later in the year than earlier.

    Also, FPI changes as the season plays out. We could very well be ahead of Tennessee, A&M, and maybe Auburn if they start out 2-2 when we play them.
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    I think most likely scenario is 2-2 on the road in the SEC with losses to Auburn and A&M. I could see us beating either of those teams if everything fell right. Most likely scenario at home is 2-2 with losses to LSU and Alabama and once again I could see us beating LSU if everything fell right. Most likely scenario is 8-4 but if everything fell right I could see us 9-3. The people saying 7-5 or 6-6 are obviously saying we lose to TN and probably someone worse then that as well. If you look at our schedule and where it lines up with other teams we actually have advantageous matchups compared to when we play others. For instance before the TN game, TN plays UGA, then us, then Alabama. We are their classic trap game. For the Auburn game, they play @A&M, then us, then go to Florida. Same with LSU, they play Florida, at our place, then Auburn. We have advantageous matchups throughout our schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    I think most likely scenario is 2-2 on the road in the SEC with losses to Auburn and A&M. I could see us beating either of those teams if everything fell right. Most likely scenario at home is 2-2 with losses to LSU and Alabama and once again I could see us beating LSU if everything fell right. Most likely scenario is 8-4 but if everything fell right I could see us 9-3. The people saying 7-5 or 6-6 are obviously saying we lose to TN and probably someone worse then that as well. If you look at our schedule and where it lines up with other teams we actually have advantageous matchups compared to when we play others. For instance before the TN game, TN plays UGA, then us, then Alabama. We are their classic trap game. For the Auburn game, they play @A&M, then us, then go to Florida. Same with LSU, they play Florida, at our place, then Auburn. We have advantageous matchups throughout our schedule.
    I look at that Georgia, state, Bama sequence differently. I think they'll circle our game bc they know Georgia and Bama just aren't very realistic while our game is one they could win if they play well

    ETA... I do like the bye before this game though for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I look at that Georgia, state, Bama sequence differently. I think they'll circle our game bc they know Georgia and Bama just aren't very realistic while our game is one they could win if they play well

    ETA... I do like the bye before this game though for us
    You obviously don't know many UT fans. This is the exact opposite of the way they will view this stretch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    You obviously don't know many UT fans. This is the exact opposite of the way they will view this stretch.
    You thought I was talking about the fans? Actually, I'm talking coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You thought I was talking about the fans? Actually, I'm talking coaches.
    That’s a good way to get fired as a UT coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    That’s a good way to get fired as a UT coach.
    Not this year. Losing to Georgia and Bama is expected, 18+ pt underdog in both. Losing to state would get Pruitt's seat much hotter than losing to Georgia and Bama. Long term though, yeah, he's gotta compete with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Not this year. Losing to Georgia and Bama is expected, 18+ pt underdog in both. Losing to state would get Pruitt's seat much hotter than losing to Georgia and Bama. Long term though, yeah, he's gotta compete with them
    If he’s 0-9 against UF, UGA, and Bama he’s not getting a fourth year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    If he’s 0-9 against UF, UGA, and Bama he’s not getting a fourth year.
    Well he's going 0-3 this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Well he's going 0-3 this year
    Yep.

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    No one really commented on something I noticed about this, balance or power in sec seems to be balancing out some according to this metric. Avg FPI of sec west is 20.43, and avg FPI in east is 21.86. Both sides have 5 in top 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You thought I was talking about the fans? Actually, I'm talking coaches.
    Dude, it's early on a Monday and my coffee hasn't kicked in.

    Regardless. Their fan expectation will be that they should beat all 3. Their coach and team expectation should be to win all 3 as they prepare. Just like our coach and team expectation should be to win every game. That's the goal. If you prepare or expect any differently, MB is right - its a good way to get fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    No one really commented on something I noticed about this, balance or power in sec seems to be balancing out some according to this metric. Avg FPI of sec west is 20.43, and avg FPI in east is 21.86. Both sides have 5 in top 20
    I think that is a combination of a few things. The east is getting better, OM and Arkansas are less competitive then they have been in almost a decade, and the whole league is head and shoulders above a significant portion of the teams in CFB.
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    FWIW, FPI has tenn favorite at 55.4%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    FWIW, FPI has tenn favorite at 55.4%.
    At the end of the day, UT has historically recruited better than us and it is in Knoxville. That is enough to get them to be favorites. So on paper UT is better but on the field it is probably close to even. Then you take into account how much we lost on the Dline but UT has also lost a lot on the Oline. Being a home game definitely helps since most of the middle of the pack teams like MSU, UT, SC, A&M, AU, and occasionally UK win their big games at home.

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