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    Question Scrimmage Observations

    Was at the scrimmage today and a few things stuck out:

    1) Tommy Stevens is for real. He spins the ball better than any MSU QB I?ve ever seen. He ran with the 1?s all day and will do so for the season. He will make a difference for us this year. He had a play where the snap was low, he corralled it and off his back foot threw it on the money to the back corner for a TD.
    2) Receiver play is night and day from last year. No drops today and very good routes. Was very impressed with Cam Gardner. He?s going to get some major PT this year.
    3) Kylin Hill. He looks like the NFL back we need him to be. One person is not bringing him down this year. He will have 20+ touches a ballgame.
    4) Defensively we were very bland. Not to say we looked bad, but we were base basically the entire scrimmage. Dantzler was in a no contact and did not play. Gay was in a no contact with shorts and a boot on. Smithermann had a nice pick at the end of practice.
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    So you're saying our defense sucks **

    Srsly, thanks for the report. I've been quietly woolly on TS since the Manning camp reports.

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    Yea the D looked good. Very good at the end of practice when we started blitzing. Once we started sending Cole off the edge our QBs had very little time to throw. We were pretty much base until the last period when they opened it up

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    I am ready to see these guys live.
    I hope we jump out early against our first 4 teams so we can keep everything vanilla until Auburn. I really do not want them to see us coming.

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    Coaches were probably holding defense back to give offense chance to work.
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    We still have some issues at the T spot IMO, but overall, the offense will be better. Still curious to see if we can adjust to SEC defenses. QB position is going to be thin next year. Shit, I’m ready to see the product in a game!

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    How is the QB position going to be thin next year? We will have KT as the #1 and have Shrader and Maden along with the kid from Brandon. We are fine at QB for the foreseeable future. How many QBs do you think we need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    How is the QB position going to be thin next year? We will have KT as the #1 and have Shrader and Maden along with the kid from Brandon. We are fine at QB for the foreseeable future. How many QBs do you think we need?
    Don't be surprised if Schrader is the starter next year. Kid has tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I seen it dawg View Post
    Don't be surprised if Schrader is the starter next year. Kid has tools.
    That would not surprise me. Moorhead has wanted Shrader since he was at Penn State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I seen it dawg View Post
    Don't be surprised if Schrader is the starter next year. Kid has tools.
    Yeah if Schrader is the guy next year you can just about guarantee KT will leave. Then you have to be concerned about Mayden as well.

    So the spot could get thin for sure if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Yeah if Schrader is the guy next year you can just about guarantee KT will leave. Then you have to be concerned about Mayden as well.

    So the spot could get thin for sure if that's the case.
    If KT doesn’t beat out Shrader next year then this offense wasn’t meant for KT to run it.

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    I doubt he spins it better than Dak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    I doubt he spins it better than Dak.
    We haven’t seen Tommy Gunn play yet, but this could be an interesting debate. I’ve always felt Dak’s value was based on a ton of things other than how he spun it. It’s completly plausible that Gunn spins it better than Dak but is only 60% of the total QB
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Was at the scrimmage today and a few things stuck out:

    1) Tommy Stevens is for real. He spins the ball better than any MSU QB I?ve ever seen. He ran with the 1?s all day and will do so for the season. He will make a difference for us this year. He had a play where the snap was low, he corralled it and off his back foot threw it on the money to the back corner for a TD.
    2) Receiver play is night and day from last year. No drops today and very good routes. Was very impressed with Cam Gardner. He?s going to get some major PT this year.
    3) Kylin Hill. He looks like the NFL back we need him to be. One person is not bringing him down this year. He will have 20+ touches a ballgame.
    4) Defensively we were very bland. Not to say we looked bad, but we were base basically the entire scrimmage. Dantzler was in a no contact and did not play. Gay was in a no contact with shorts and a boot on. Smithermann had a nice pick at the end of practice.
    How is the team taking to Gunn? Is he just a “grad transfer” filler in their minds or is he leading the team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Yeah if Schrader is the guy next year you can just about guarantee KT will leave. Then you have to be concerned about Mayden as well.

    So the spot could get thin for sure if that's the case.
    QBs will always be leaving. Once you get to the 3rd guy, they all suck anyway. Just make sure your starter is good and your backup won’t 17 it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We still have some issues at the T spot IMO, but overall, the offense will be better. Still curious to see if we can adjust to SEC defenses. QB position is going to be thin next year. Shit, I’m ready to see the product in a game!

    What issues do we have at OT? The personnel there seems good. What’s the issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    QBs will always be leaving. Once you get to the 3rd guy, they all suck anyway. Just make sure your starter is good and your backup won’t 17 it up
    Well the point was made that our QB position could be thin. I don't know about you but I wouldn't be overly thrilled if our QB depth chart next year was Schrader and Rogers and that was it.

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    Still will have some issues with speed off the end. I’m not saying they’re bad. Just certain matchups are going to still give us some problems. I think the other question is how will we use the TEs. We’ve heard of more TE sets, so maybe we give them help. We didn’t last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Well the point was made that our QB position could be thin. I don't know about you but I wouldn't be overly thrilled if our QB depth chart next year was Schrader and Rogers and that was it.
    We do need a middle guy.

    Is Rogers enrolling early? I wouldn’t want to burn his RS though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Still will have some issues with speed off the end. I’m not saying they’re bad. Just certain matchups are going to still give us some problems. I think the other question is how will we use the TEs. We’ve heard of more TE sets, so maybe we give them help. We didn’t last year.
    Makes sense. Put some weight on Cross so we can handle the edge
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