Cut that Jovester sh*t out. I thought there were rules about names on this board...

[R2Dawg]

You must be really young if you think any coach in our history wins those two games. Hate to break it to you but FL finished #7 and KY finished #12 that would be defined as two great teams by any measure. KY was during a monsoon where we faced our first adversity of the season. Joe and company got punched in the mouth and didn't adjust but don't diminish the team KY had because of our shortcomings. Mullen knew our team better than Joe and exploited it, he had 3-4 years with these players Joe had 6 months that is the main reason we lost to Florida. 2014 was a magical year climbing to #1 but in the end we still finished with 3 losses and blew our only shot at beating a Bama Team led by a converted RB named Blake Sims.

I am willing to give Joe time to bring in WRs and a QB that fit the passing mold he is striving for. If he fails well I am sure the board knows plenty of replacement candidates that would jump at the jump. Even though coordinators in P5 turned us down before Joe. Joe is bringing in better lineman, better WR, and better QB prospects than Dan. It will fall on development and our S&C staff going forward. Those are the two best aspects of Mullen running the show.

So how long you been watching MSU football? I didn't say MSU history, I said my lifetime.

If Jo can't figure out our talent out in 6 months then he ain't much of a coach. Follow your logic further, so Mullen's who he also had 6 months to figure out his new talent which was less than MSU yet he still beat Jo? Yes Mullen knew MSU but he didn't know what Jo would do, he also didn't know Shoop but yet we knew Grantham. So who had the advantage? At the end of the day we royally screwed the UF game.

Take the talent we had and put Mullen, JWS, Bellard and maybe even Felker and we win those games. I still like Jo and think he gets it done but we messed on ourselves in both games.

Yep we under finished in 2014 and many other years under Mullen.

[Political Hack]

What?? Mullen only won and average of 7

Not sure what that has to do with JoMo. But Mullen won 8 or more, more than half the time. Median is more important than mean when it comes to football wins.

[Schultzy]

Mullen and Collins both mailed in the 2014 egg. One knew he was gone and the other thought he was.

Possibly the most important game in our school?s history and all our HC and DC could think about was their next gig and despising each another.

[Tbonewannabe]

Mullen and Collins both mailed in the 2014 egg. One knew he was gone and the other thought he was.

Possibly the most important game in our school?s history and all our HC and DC could think about was their next gig and despising each another.

Yep, also against a QB on one good leg.

[Johnson85]

Mullen and Collins both mailed in the 2014 egg. One knew he was gone and the other thought he was.

Possibly the most important game in our school?s history and all our HC and DC could think about was their next gig and despising each another.

Well, Collins did lose his starting and backup free safety that week. I can cut him some slack on the fact that a college TE/WR hybrid with NFL speed tore us up when we were relying on our third string free safety.

[Todd4State]

Well, Collins did lose his starting and backup free safety that week. I can cut him some slack on the fact that a college TE/WR hybrid with NFL speed tore us up when we were relying on our third string free safety.

We were hurt more by 1A/1B that game. See Kivon Coman tackling Chris Jones which sprung Ole Miss for a 90+ yard rushing touchdown.

[Schultzy]

We were hurt more by 1A/1B that game. See Kivon Coman tackling Chris Jones which sprung Ole Miss for a 90+ yard rushing touchdown.

1A & 1B were both coached that whole week by disinterested coaches (when even at practice by the way). As was the rest of the team.

And as for injuries they played wit a qb w 18 lbs of tape on one foot and we never even pressured him. Your players know when you’ve checked out.