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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Why RS key? If he isn't good enough to play this year, he likely never will be. We will have 4 scholarship QBs in 2020 if no one leaves. No reason to RS key unless it's help him save a year of eligibility to transfer out after the season
    If we think Key is the next starter, we should try to RS him to give us two years from him. If he doesn't look like the starter for next year at this point, then I'd hope we'd give him some input into whether he wanted to RS or not. Not redshirting him last year when he didn't play real snaps in more than 4 games was crappy. If he wants to save some eligibility for a transfer, we should at least try to work with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Mayden was the best passer in the spring in my eyes as well. I went to one practice and watched the game on record. Im not sure Shrader will ever get a real shot. Him and KT are the most likely to transfer. I just dont think either throws it that well. Shrader had a lot of growing up to do as well.

    KT has great intangibles and is a Dawg so he will stay till the end of the season but if I had to put money on it right now I would say he transfers in January and we have a real ''QB battle'' next year between Mayden, Shrader and Rogers. Rogers is planning on graduating early to make spring ball as well
    Seems a tad bit early to be making that call for a true freshman that hasn't even gone through fall practices yet. Especially as athletic as he supposedly is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Seems a tad bit early to be making that call for a true freshman that hasn't even gone through fall practices yet. Especially as athletic as he supposedly is.
    I agree it is early but he just didnt impress me much during the spring. Granted I saw one practice and the game but still. I do know he had spent a little time in the doghouse though but we all make mistakes. I am pulling for him not meaning to say he sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I agree it is early but he just didnt impress me much during the spring. Granted I saw one practice and the game but still. I do know he had spent a little time in the doghouse though but we all make mistakes. I am pulling for him not meaning to say he sucks
    I thought his feet looked good & he's obviously an excellent athlete. I liked the way he moved in the pocket.

    I think the major question with Shrader is that shoulder surgery he had & if his arm & accuracy will ever come all the way back.

    Thus, I would say it's too early to say due to that shoulder issue. If things aren't better by Spring next year, it may be time to start being concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I thought his feet looked good & he's obviously an excellent athlete. I liked the way he moved in the pocket.

    I think the major question with Shrader is that shoulder surgery he had & if his arm & accuracy will ever come all the way back.

    Thus, I would say it's too early to say due to that shoulder issue. If things aren't better by Spring next year, it may be time to start being concerned.
    My biggest concern with any QB is the mental side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I agree it is early but he just didnt impress me much during the spring. Granted I saw one practice and the game but still. I do know he had spent a little time in the doghouse though but we all make mistakes. I am pulling for him not meaning to say he sucks
    He had been on campus what, 2 and a half months at that point. Dak didn’t look like much the first spring after EE’ing. It would be crazy to evaluate an EE in his first spring

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    I think this suspension rumor is the biggest reason why things are playing out the way they are. I think it?s a big reason we brought TS in and given Moorhead?s prior use of KT, I don?t expect TS to be benched after that head start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless View Post
    I mean your not wrong. He still trashes Coach O though daily.
    He's really doubled down on his O hate. I don't know what O ever did to piss him off, but he absolutely trashes him every time LSU is mentioned. He also puts WAY too much stock into everything Dave Bartoo says. You would think everything that guy says is gospel if you listen to Bo talk about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    He's really doubled down on his O hate. I don't know what O ever did to piss him off, but he absolutely trashes him every time LSU is mentioned. He also puts WAY too much stock into everything Dave Bartoo says. You would think everything that guy says is gospel if you listen to Bo talk about him.
    Those analytics tho....... You would assume Bartoo has never been wrong listening to Bo. Hell he picked LSU at 6-6 last season. I do like Bartoos stats but I agree Bo takes it overboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless View Post
    Those analytics tho....... You would assume Bartoo has never been wrong listening to Bo. Hell he picked LSU at 6-6 last season. I do like Bartoos stats but I agree Bo takes it overboard.
    Bartoo's matrix said App St. was going to give Georgia a close game two years ago. Georgia waxed their asses. It was way out of control before halftime. Bartoo is a con man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Key is suspended the first two games of the season anyways.
    I haven't heard about this. What was the reason(s)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Key is suspended the first two games of the season anyways.
    If he is suspended for the first 2 games, he has ZERO shot at starting
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    I'd go ahead and play KT. We need a 1 year bridge from Stevens to Will Rodgers.

    Whop was and still is the one who pisses me off that he didn't redshirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I'd go ahead and play KT. We need a 1 year bridge from Stevens to Will Rodgers.

    Whop was and still is the one who pisses me off that he didn't redshirt.
    We think Rodgers is going to jump Mayden and Shrader that quickly? Both of those guys have a lot of talent, I will say I haven't seen Rodgers play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    I haven't heard about this. What was the reason(s)?
    Man I sure do hope we are good at BASKETBALL this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Mayden was the best passer in the spring in my eyes as well. I went to one practice and watched the game on record. Im not sure Shrader will ever get a real shot. Him and KT are the most likely to transfer. I just dont think either throws it that well. Shrader had a lot of growing up to do as well.

    KT has great intangibles and is a Dawg so he will stay till the end of the season but if I had to put money on it right now I would say he transfers in January and we have a real ''QB battle'' next year between Mayden, Shrader and Rogers. Rogers is planning on graduating early to make spring ball as well
    Joe has said multiple times that KT was clearly QB1 coming out of spring, so unless Mayden makes a jump in fall practice, he'll be third (not counting any game(s) KT may be suspended).

    Shrader is Joe's handpicked guy from way back. No way he leaves unless Rogers at some point passes him, which seems unlikely. Dak looked like garbage as a passer the first 2 springs he was here, so I'm not basing anything on Shader's "should be at prom instead" spring. He's big and fast with a good arm and ran a similar offense in high school. He's got a good shot to be the guy next year.

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    He isn?t the only one suspend. Gay is suspended also. They shared the same tutor as Nick Wearherspoon.

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    Just did some research on Will Rogers. Nice get. Essentially raised in a in a locker room, so to speak. Good football smarts.

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    If will Rogers gets an OM offer and flips, he'll immediately become no big loss haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If will Rogers gets an OM offer and flips, he'll immediately become no big loss haha
    Will Rogers will not go to ole miss if they offer him.

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