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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
If Jon has to kill Dany then it will probably be bittersweet. If Jon is basically forced to rule then it kind of follows with "heavy is the head that wears the crown". He would be happier doing something else but does it out of obligation. Dany wants the throne because she thinks it is her destiny, Cersei wants it for the power, Sansa would want it also for the power but would be a better ruler than Cersei, and no one else is really up for it. Anyone outside of those 4 really is a curve ball.
Totally expect a curveball but I think I'll only be satisfied with Jon out of those 4.
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The only thing I care about.
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So the big rumor is one of the dragons laid eggs in Old Valaryia - the scene where Tyrion and Jorah are sailing by the ruins and see a dragon fly by - two seasons ago and we get to see them attack Euron's fleet.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
So the big rumor is one of the dragons laid eggs in Old Valaryia - the scene where Tyrion and Jorah are sailing by the ruins and see a dragon fly by - two seasons ago and we get to see them attack Euron's fleet.
That would definitely be a curve ball.
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A flock of Dragons would probably seal it. Jon is gonna get eaten.
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I think the Reddit leaks are bullshit. Watched a Youtube video that matched the recent leaks and there are several inconsistencies. One says Tyrion dies another by the same poster says Tyrion is on the small council for Bran who is named king. Not one leak mentions multiple dragons..yet that is the big rumor now with the actor who portrays Euron going right along with it posting some cryptic tweets.
It's all a ruse.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I think the Reddit leaks are bullshit. Watched a Youtube video that matched the recent leaks and there are several inconsistencies. One says Tyrion dies another by the same poster says Tyrion is on the small council for Bran who is named king. Not one leak mentions multiple dragons..yet that is the big rumor now with the actor who portrays Euron going right along with it posting some cryptic tweets.
It's all a ruse.
That would be a problem for me. Bran would be the last guy who or would want to be named king. That would just kind of go against the character.
I think that Dany gets the throne and starts burning people like Varys and/or Tyrion for talking about putting Jon on the throne. Then she wants to kill Sansa for not bending the knee and Jon steps in and kills her. Jon either takes the throne out of duty or just goes North and Sansa ends up on the throne.
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Ok, Mad Queen angle...
I thought Arya was going to kill Cersi, but she's going to kill the Dragon Queen. Knight King and Dragon Queen I'm back to back wars would be pretty strong.
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I am definitely let down by this episode. I understand the angle but overall about 20 minutes of plot happened and what did was weak. They have one more episode to end the story strong instead of with a whimper.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Ok, Mad Queen angle...
I thought Arya was going to kill Cersi, but she's going to kill the Dragon Queen. Knight King and Dragon Queen I'm back to back wars would be pretty strong.
Arya does a Hunger Games on Dany.
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Worst episode of 8 seasons. They just blew it all to hell. Terrible writing... very rushed. You can tell this isn't GRRM's story anymore.
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Originally Posted by
mparkerfd20
Worst episode of 8 seasons. They just blew it all to hell. Terrible writing... very rushed. You can tell this isn't GRRM's story anymore.
I agree. I told my wife last night that if GRRM EVER finishes the books then he very well might change a lot of things including who ends up on the Iron Throne.
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Absolute shit episode.
Jon Snow has become a fool. He still knows nothing.
Cersei got off waaaay too easy. Completely ****ed Jaime's character.
Clegane Bowl was meh.
Arya Stark changed her life goals from a piss poor motivational speech. (This whole arc should have taken three episodes as the two ride to King's Landing)
The two Davids can't write for shit without GRRM looking over their shoulders and guiding them.
Six episodes? They rushed enough shit in the plot it should damn well be at least ten!
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And don't get me started on what a waste the Golden Company turned out to be.
So, what you're telling me David and David is if Dany had attacked King's Landing in season 7 with all three of her dragons this shit would have been over before the Dothraki or Unsullied could have made it through the gate.
Drogon > The Iron Fleet, 20 scorpions, The Golden Company, The Lannister Army and the city of King's Landing
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
And don't get me started on what a waste the Golden Company turned out to be.
So, what you're telling me David and David is if Dany had attacked King's Landing in season 7 with all three of her dragons this shit would have been over before the Dothraki or Unsullied could have made it through the gate.
Drogon > The Iron Fleet, 20 scorpions, The Golden Company, The Lannister Army and the city of King's Landing
Drogon took out the Iron Fleet and Euron fired 1 scorpion. What is the difference from this week compared to last week when they were filling the sky up with scorpion bolts?
One thing in the after the episode, one of the David's mentioned that Dany basically had zero sympathy for her brother getting melted in front of her so she has had an ability to give zero 17s. Her melting women and children has been inside her all along and maybe being the close to the Iron Throne drove her further towards madness.
It definitely feels rushed and maybe this will be the incentive for GRRM to finish his books since the ending is getting massacred. He might even find a different ending compared to the shows.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Drogon took out the Iron Fleet and Euron fired 1 scorpion. What is the difference from this week compared to last week when they were filling the sky up with scorpion bolts?
One thing in the after the episode, one of the David's mentioned that Dany basically had zero sympathy for her brother getting melted in front of her so she has had an ability to give zero 17s. Her melting women and children has been inside her all along and maybe being the close to the Iron Throne drove her further towards madness.
It definitely feels rushed and maybe this will be the incentive for GRRM to finish his books since the ending is getting massacred. He might even find a different ending compared to the shows.
My theory now is GRRM is waiting on the Davids to get finished ****ing things up so he can correct it in the books.
I didn't watch the after show b/c I was so disgusted. But that sounds like a Russo Brother's after the fact explanation.
And a real Mad Queen would kill Jon Snow. He is the true heir and anything short of his death leaves him the possibility of usurping her throne.
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The best part of this season, the memes.
Last edited by HereComesTheSpiral; 05-13-2019 at 12:08 PM.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
My theory now is GRRM is waiting on the Davids to get finished ****ing things up so he can correct it in the books.
I didn't watch the after show b/c I was so disgusted. But that sounds like a Russo Brother's after the fact explanation.
And a real Mad Queen would kill Jon Snow. He is the true heir and anything short of his death leaves him the possibility of usurping her throne.
I think Dany tries to kill Jon or Sansa and that is what sets Jon off. Arya might snipe her but I just don't know how I would feel about her killing the Night King and Dany.
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I think Dany is going to kill Tyrion and/or Sansa and Jon will break free after that. Arya will kill Dany IMO. Jon will fight the unsullied.
I keep waiting for Bron to take over the dragon. Seems like they would've worked that in by now.
Jon will accept the Iron throne with a heavy heart. Only he and Arya survive.
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Is there a time length for the finale yet? Really hope it pushes 2 hours
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