Favorite to land Tommy Stevens

[confucius say]

If Fitz doesn't break his ankle in the Egg Bowl he probably does get benched for a couple of drives vs LSU, Florida, Kentucky. His sympathy clout was on max the whole year once Joe took over and told him he was gonna win the heisman. Joe was never going to bench him no matter what once he said that.

He wanted to play KT but KT was nowhere near ready. Ask anybody who watched practice. Hell nick Gibson two weeks ago, when asked about KT improving, said last fall KT was throwing the ball all over the place and nobody knew where it was going.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He wanted to play KT but KT was nowhere near ready. Ask anybody who watched practice. Hell nick Gibson two weeks ago, when asked about KT improving, said last fall KT was throwing the ball all over the place and nobody knew where it was going.

That's why we saw KT in an important point in the A&M game......and then we saw what happened. It was at that moment that I knew he wasn't ready. And I wanted to go to KT very bad all throughout the LSU game and all week leading up to the A&M game. I even made the statement that if KT plays a majority of the game then we probably win. Gladly ate crow on that one

[BuckyIsAB****]

Cause he thought Mullen coached him up. He didn't. Mullen left this project player in mid-fix.

He wouldnt have been a project player for Mullen in 2018. He would have probably gotten all american votes, if not made one of the teams outright. It was just a bigger hill to climb than anyone realized.

English to Spanish

[TrapGame]

He wouldnt have been a project player for Mullen in 2018. He would have probably gotten all american votes, if not made one of the teams outright. It was just a bigger hill to climb than anyone realized.

English to Spanish

Yep, I totally agree.

[deadheaddawg]

People need to realize Dan Mullen is arguably the best QB coach in the country.... especially for a certain type of QB. The type we have on campus now. DM's track record with QBs cannot be questioned.

Guess what guys. That means we lost a very special coach when it comes to coaching QBs like Fitz and KT. We were not going to replace that. You can't. What he does best is what we are all complaining about

There was going to be a drop off at QB. And there were going to be issues having a good fit for the QBs on our roster. ... remember these are specialized types of QBs we have.

There just wasn't a way to avoid it some disruption. What was best for the program was making the best hire for the long term.

If that means getting a very highly regarded young assistant that ran an offensive that needs something different....and giving him time to do it.....so be it.

Our record 4 years from now is more important to me than last year's

[Coach007]

Mullen's offense made Fitz look a lot better than he really was. And that's not knock on Fitz. He did what was asked of him.

Mullen's offense was not a vertical game. Fitz would have never had to have thrown it deep. There is a real reason why we did not get alot of great WRs under Mullen. He didn't need them for his game.

So take what Mullen did and add a vertical game and that's Moorhead. Spread them DEEP and WIDE and allow the QB the reads to run, hand off or pass.

[Coach007]

The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.

Nope. Nobody is trashing him. Stating his stats is not trashing him. Stating facts like it's SFA is just truth.

What everybody is saying is obvious.

- Moorhead was hired for his offense and success... he was NOT hired to be a Mullen clone.
- Moorhead's offense runs circles around Mullen's. Why? Because Mullen doesn't play deep ball or longer passes. He lives off bubble screens and 5- 15 yard passes with the QB allowed to pull the ball and run. Moorhead's doesn't just spread them horizontally, but vertically too.

He has the COY plaques on his wall and knows what it takes to make his system run. Let him do his job. OR maybe we can ALL just ban together and bitch about him like you and others did Mullen until he is ready to move on.

[Coach007]

Trashing our QBs is to deflect all blame off Moorhead

Again.. no. Nobody is trashing them.

- Either you want Moorhead to do his job

OR

- You want him to cater to the players MULLEN recruited for HIS offense.

You are placing him in a non-winnable situation.

[Todd4State]

Again.. no. Nobody is trashing them.

- Either you want Moorhead to do his job

OR

- You want him to cater to the players MULLEN recruited for HIS offense.

You are placing him in a non-winnable situation.

Yep.

I've come to realize very quickly that everything is Joe's fault no matter what.

And it's most interesting to me that some of his biggest critics that have railed him for "not adjusting to his players" are upset that he's trying to get a QB in that fits his system.

[DancingRabbit]

Yep.

I've come to realize very quickly that everything is Joe's fault no matter what.

And it's most interesting to me that some of his biggest critics that have railed him for "not adjusting to his players" are upset that he's trying to get a QB in that fits his system.

I think this was a particularly challenging adjustment. You have 2 semi-accurate QBs and a receiver corps that has the dropsies. Other than that and maybe LT, you had some very solid offensive pieces. You have to tip your hat to Dan and Hev for whatever their secret sauce is, but not many programs do things quite like they do.

There's certainly valid complaints that not making the right adjustments cost us a couple of games. I won't argue that.

BUT in the past he's been touted as being great at that.

Randy Edsall, his HC at UConn when Joe was the OC, said this when he got the Penn State job.

"Joe is as good of an offensive coordinator, quarterback coach and play-caller as there is around. He'll do a great job at Penn State. They got a steal. Those kids will love him."

"He was able to take all the pieces we had and put them together ...," Edsall said. "He's not one of those guys who is stubborn and says, 'This is how we have to do it.' He's going to take his personnel and utilize their abilities to the max for the offense to be successful. James really helped himself with that hire."


https://www.ydr.com/story/sports/col...head/77314840/

[Todd4State]

I think this was a particularly challenging adjustment. You have 2 semi-accurate QBs and a receiver corps that has the dropsies. Other than that and maybe LT, you had some very solid offensive pieces. You have to tip your hat to Dan and Hev for whatever their secret sauce is, but not many programs do things quite like they do.

There's certainly valid complaints that not making the right adjustments cost us a couple of games. I won't argue that.

BUT in the past he's been touted as being great at that.

Randy Edsall, his HC at UConn when Joe was the OC, said this when he got the Penn State job.

"Joe is as good of an offensive coordinator, quarterback coach and play-caller as there is around. He'll do a great job at Penn State. They got a steal. Those kids will love him."

"He was able to take all the pieces we had and put them together ...," Edsall said. "He's not one of those guys who is stubborn and says, 'This is how we have to do it.' He's going to take his personnel and utilize their abilities to the max for the offense to be successful. James really helped himself with that hire."


https://www.ydr.com/story/sports/col...head/77314840/

I think it was challenging in the sense that you have a record setting QB at running the ball who was the face of the program coming off of a pretty horrific injury that was dirty...but at the same time he was also a known party animal, got suspended in game one, and was very inaccurate. I think we were solid at RB, TE, and C/G. That's only about half of the offense. People talk about how good Dan was- but this offense put up similar numbers all told in 2017 and 2018. People can scream but...….but.....CONFERENCE games.....all they want to. This offense also blew out all of our OOC opponents- Dan did not one out of four times. Not complaining because we usually still won and that's all that matters plus everyone has an off day. Point is that's a far cry from Crooooom-esque. We also hung 52 on Arkansas and 35 on the road against Ole Miss in what was probably honestly the best all around Egg Bowl I have ever seen us play as I was not alive in 1909 or whatever year it was that we beat Ole Miss 65-0. We also scored in the 20's against A&M and Auburn which was good enough to win and those were quality SEC teams. All of that tells me it wasn't the system and that we need to add talent to the roster. Because when we are getting beat by LSU and allowing 17 and Alabama and allow 24 that tells me we are there on defense in terms of talent because there have definitely been times in other years where the defense wasn't "there" yet either.

I also find it interesting that Joe has now taken over as the OC since Getsy left. That makes me wonder how much was called by Joe vs Getsy and it makes me wonder if Joe disagreed with a lot of what Getsy was calling- however much that may have been. It kind of reminds me of when Les Koenning left and Dan took over as the OC after 2013. The whole reason why Dan hired Les was so he could focus on being the head coach until he realized that he could handle both calling plays and managing the team. Perhaps Joe had the same thought in year one?

[Todd4State]

Mullen's offense was not a vertical game. Fitz would have never had to have thrown it deep. There is a real reason why we did not get alot of great WRs under Mullen. He didn't need them for his game.

So take what Mullen did and add a vertical game and that's Moorhead. Spread them DEEP and WIDE and allow the QB the reads to run, hand off or pass.

I think Dan would have been more vertical if he had the receivers to do it but I'm not sure that he didn't want them. I think he felt like he was so smart of a OC and that his offense was so good he could plug in anyone including three smurfs at WR and he would still put up tons of points. I think he valued his friends over that as a result. We didn't have offensive tackles either and I'm 100% that wasn't because we didn't want them either.

[Maroonthirteen]

The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.

We talking about Stephen F Austin, man! I recall Hill taking a swing pass 70-80 yards for a TD. I remember KT skipping a ball to an open WR early In The game. Missing others. It wasn?t a clean game. Just a total mismatch in talent.

[Ezsoil]

We talking about Stephen F Austin, man! I recall Hill taking a swing pass 70-80 yards for a TD. I remember KT skipping a ball to an open WR early In The game. Missing others. It wasn?t a clean game. Just a total mismatch in talent.

And the TD to Williams was wounded duck that would had been intercepted in most high school games

[BrunswickDawg]

I know this is a thread hijack - but did y'all see that Jalon Jones for UF has entered the transfer portal? Is this a record for an early enrollee? Not a good look for UF. - https://www.dawgnation.com/football/...en-jalon-jones

[msstate7]

I know this is a thread hijack - but did y'all see that Jalon Jones for UF has entered the transfer portal? Is this a record for an early enrollee? Not a good look for UF. - https://www.dawgnation.com/football/...en-jalon-jones

Franks/Emory Jones this year and next
Emory Jones the following year

I think the kid is smart to leave now

[Jarius]

Franks/Emory Jones this year and next
Emory Jones the following year

I think the kid is smart to leave now

If he was smart he would have never went there to begin with.

[msstate7]

If he was smart he would have never went there to begin with.

Maybe so, but correcting a mistake at once is better than digging in farther

[Jarius]

Maybe so, but correcting a mistake at once is better than digging in farther

Well, the rumor is that he beat up a female so if that's true I'm not sure he corrected much of anything.

[Ari Gold]

So those are questioning CJM for looking and making sure we have the best chance to win football games with the right QB
Hopefully they also questioned CDM when he was out courting Cam Newton when we had Tyler Russell up next ready to go

Not saying that Tommy Stevens by any stretch is Cam but it’s the same situation. .

And I have no issue with KT running the show if he is ready to go. Hopefully they will be fixed , if we don’t get a QB transfer they have to be