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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    That makes it worse then. Why even mention Heisman to him then if he didn't know what Fitz could or couldn't do?
    Cause he thought Mullen coached him up. He didn't. Mullen left this project player in mid-fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Cause he thought Mullen coached him up. He didn't. Mullen left this project player in mid-fix.
    If he thought that after watching film on Fitz the last 2 years, then Moorehead (Breiner as well) has no business evaluating talent or mechanics in throwing. Especially after seeing him in person for months. That’s beyond a weak take with an offensive coach who was a QB and QB coach himself.

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    Good grief. What was Joe supposed to say.

    Yeah, you know this school historically has the lowest winning percentage of all sec schools. Only game i watched yous guys play was the 2017 egg bowl. Boy was that a beating. The QB under threw a pass by 20 yards that set the tone for that game. Can that guy even walk? Because The freshman isn?t any good either. Yous Guys don?t expect much. Players get your degree, you?ll need it. Send my check to 123 easy street Waverley. I reckon I?ll see yous guys for another 4 years. So no need to wear out my welcome in the first presser. Good luck on your baseball. I?m flying out of this misery and back to happy valley for the summer. See ya next fall.
    Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 04-30-2019 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Yeah, too bad he didn't know Fitz couldn't read a defense or complete a pass over ten yards about a 3rd of the time. Again, what's on that bench looks bad on Mullen and his supernatural QB whispering bullshit. Mullen stopped coaching long before he went to Florida. Dak was his last effort at molding a QB. He was ready to go after Dak. It's not Fitz's fault either. Dan ****ed over this team in more ways than one. I also guarantee you Dan spent more time coaching Franks at FL in 6 months than he did Fitz for two years. He was back to giving a shit again (see Relf, Chris 2009-10).
    Good post. 2014 Bama and the Hugh Freeze era broke Mullen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    If he thought that after watching film on Fitz the last 2 years, then Moorehead (Breiner as well) has no business evaluating talent or mechanics in throwing. Especially after seeing him in person for months. That’s beyond a weak take with an offensive coach who was a QB and QB coach himself.
    I don't understand all the emotional back-lash over some positive coach-speak the day after he was hired. This is immediately after the egg loss, Fitz's leg and Dan saying see ya - a little positivity was in order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingRabbit View Post
    I don't understand all the emotional back-lash over some positive coach-speak the day after he was hired. This is immediately after the egg loss, Fitz's leg and Dan saying see ya - a little positivity was in order.
    Exactly. It was what it was at that point. It isn’t like he had any options other than Fitz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingRabbit View Post
    I don't understand all the emotional back-lash over some positive coach-speak the day after he was hired. This is immediately after the egg loss, Fitz's leg and Dan saying see ya - a little positivity was in order.
    I don’t have a problem with that. Where did I post anything against that? I was responding directly to the idea that Moorehead thought Mullen had “coached Fitz up” more than he actually was, which was a weak take and insinuates that Moorehead has no clue what he had at QB. But as far as the coach speak stuff coming in, I’ve no issues with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    If he thought that after watching film on Fitz the last 2 years, then Moorehead (Breiner as well) has no business evaluating talent or mechanics in throwing. Especially after seeing him in person for months. That’s beyond a weak take with an offensive coach who was a QB and QB coach himself.
    Mullen's offense made Fitz look a lot better than he really was. And that's not knock on Fitz. He did what was asked of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Exactly. It was what it was at that point. It isn’t like he had any options other than Fitz.
    The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
    Trashing our QBs is to deflect all blame off Moorhead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
    I don't understand why he couldn't beat Fitz out. He obviously the better QB on paper. He has really more of an up side than Fitz. I don't understand why Joe didn't pull Fitz in the LSU game and tell Key "Key, you're the man now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
    Umm, SFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Trashing our QBs is to deflect all blame off Moorhead
    So Moorhead deserves ALL the blame? If you believe that you really are dense.

    But then again throwing Moorhead under the bus after one year is really pathetic.

    If the offense looks just as lost as last year with Stevens, or Key, I'm off the bandwagon. We need to see this offense actually work like its supposed to in year two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Mullen's offense made Fitz look a lot better than he really was. And that's not knock on Fitz. He did what was asked of him.
    Moorehead has been an OC and QB coach for years but you think he can’t breakdown what Fitz was asked to do under Mullen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Good post. 2014 Bama and the Hugh Freeze era broke Mullen.
    OT: Mullen sure is running his mouth a lot at Florida. I guess he forgot his ass has trouble cashing the checks his mouth makes. It could get awkward in Gainsville in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I don’t have a problem with that. Where did I post anything against that? I was responding directly to the idea that Moorehead thought Mullen had “coached Fitz up” more than he actually was, which was a weak take and insinuates that Moorehead has no clue what he had at QB. But as far as the coach speak stuff coming in, I’ve no issues with that.
    Sorry, I shouldn't have quoted you. My comments were directed at anyone complaining about Joe's hiring day coachspeak 18 months later. If you're not one of those we're good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Moorehead has been an OC and QB coach for years but you think he can’t breakdown what Fitz was asked to do under Mullen?
    Well, y'all say he sucks as an OC/QB coach soooooo maybe he can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingRabbit View Post
    Sorry, I shouldn't have quoted you. My comments were directed at anyone complaining about Joe's hiring day coachspeak 18 months later. If you're not one of those we're good.
    No problem at all. Lord knows that I’ve been critical about a lot of things offensively this past season. But that’s definitely not an issue I have with him. And there’s no doubt in my mind he was disappointed with the offense as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    I don't understand why he couldn't beat Fitz out. He obviously the better QB on paper. He has really more of an up side than Fitz. I don't understand why Joe didn't pull Fitz in the LSU game and tell Key "Key, you're the man now."
    If Fitz doesn't break his ankle in the Egg Bowl he probably does get benched for a couple of drives vs LSU, Florida, Kentucky. His sympathy clout was on max the whole year once Joe took over and told him he was gonna win the heisman. Joe was never going to bench him no matter what once he said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    If Fitz doesn't break his ankle in the Egg Bowl he probably does get benched for a couple of drives vs LSU, Florida, Kentucky. His sympathy clout was on max the whole year once Joe took over and told him he was gonna win the heisman. Joe was never going to bench him no matter what once he said that.
    Nick was very much in trouble of losing his job after LSU. Nick straightened up after that game and that's not a coincidence.

    Very curious to me around that time were Joe's comment about how he was tired of protecting Nick. I think it was obviously a slip of the tongue but very telling about our situation at the time.

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