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04-30-2019, 02:47 PM
#261

Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
That makes it worse then. Why even mention Heisman to him then if he didn't know what Fitz could or couldn't do?
Cause he thought Mullen coached him up. He didn't. Mullen left this project player in mid-fix.
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04-30-2019, 02:58 PM
#262

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Cause he thought Mullen coached him up. He didn't. Mullen left this project player in mid-fix.
If he thought that after watching film on Fitz the last 2 years, then Moorehead (Breiner as well) has no business evaluating talent or mechanics in throwing. Especially after seeing him in person for months. That’s beyond a weak take with an offensive coach who was a QB and QB coach himself.
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04-30-2019, 03:01 PM
#263
Good grief. What was Joe supposed to say.
Yeah, you know this school historically has the lowest winning percentage of all sec schools. Only game i watched yous guys play was the 2017 egg bowl. Boy was that a beating. The QB under threw a pass by 20 yards that set the tone for that game. Can that guy even walk? Because The freshman isn?t any good either. Yous Guys don?t expect much. Players get your degree, you?ll need it. Send my check to 123 easy street Waverley. I reckon I?ll see yous guys for another 4 years. So no need to wear out my welcome in the first presser. Good luck on your baseball. I?m flying out of this misery and back to happy valley for the summer. See ya next fall.
Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 04-30-2019 at 03:05 PM.
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04-30-2019, 03:10 PM
#264

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Yeah, too bad he didn't know Fitz couldn't read a defense or complete a pass over ten yards about a 3rd of the time. Again, what's on that bench looks bad on Mullen and his supernatural QB whispering bullshit. Mullen stopped coaching long before he went to Florida. Dak was his last effort at molding a QB. He was ready to go after Dak. It's not Fitz's fault either. Dan ****ed over this team in more ways than one. I also guarantee you Dan spent more time coaching Franks at FL in 6 months than he did Fitz for two years. He was back to giving a shit again (see Relf, Chris 2009-10).
Good post. 2014 Bama and the Hugh Freeze era broke Mullen.
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04-30-2019, 03:15 PM
#265

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
If he thought that after watching film on Fitz the last 2 years, then Moorehead (Breiner as well) has no business evaluating talent or mechanics in throwing. Especially after seeing him in person for months. That’s beyond a weak take with an offensive coach who was a QB and QB coach himself.
I don't understand all the emotional back-lash over some positive coach-speak the day after he was hired. This is immediately after the egg loss, Fitz's leg and Dan saying see ya - a little positivity was in order.
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04-30-2019, 03:18 PM
#266

Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
I don't understand all the emotional back-lash over some positive coach-speak the day after he was hired. This is immediately after the egg loss, Fitz's leg and Dan saying see ya - a little positivity was in order.
Exactly. It was what it was at that point. It isn’t like he had any options other than Fitz.
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04-30-2019, 03:24 PM
#267

Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
I don't understand all the emotional back-lash over some positive coach-speak the day after he was hired. This is immediately after the egg loss, Fitz's leg and Dan saying see ya - a little positivity was in order.
I don’t have a problem with that. Where did I post anything against that? I was responding directly to the idea that Moorehead thought Mullen had “coached Fitz up” more than he actually was, which was a weak take and insinuates that Moorehead has no clue what he had at QB. But as far as the coach speak stuff coming in, I’ve no issues with that.
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04-30-2019, 03:25 PM
#268

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
If he thought that after watching film on Fitz the last 2 years, then Moorehead (Breiner as well) has no business evaluating talent or mechanics in throwing. Especially after seeing him in person for months. That’s beyond a weak take with an offensive coach who was a QB and QB coach himself.
Mullen's offense made Fitz look a lot better than he really was. And that's not knock on Fitz. He did what was asked of him.
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04-30-2019, 03:26 PM
#269

Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
Exactly. It was what it was at that point. It isn’t like he had any options other than Fitz.
The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
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04-30-2019, 03:30 PM
#270

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
Trashing our QBs is to deflect all blame off Moorhead
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04-30-2019, 03:31 PM
#271

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
I don't understand why he couldn't beat Fitz out. He obviously the better QB on paper. He has really more of an up side than Fitz. I don't understand why Joe didn't pull Fitz in the LSU game and tell Key "Key, you're the man now."
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04-30-2019, 03:32 PM
#272

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
The amount of disrespect Keytaon gets from this fanbase is ridiculous. KT had 473 total yards vs SFA in only 3 QUARTERS! He didn't even play in the 4th. Fitz didn't sniff that total amount of yards in one game the entire year.
Umm, SFA.
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04-30-2019, 03:35 PM
#273

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Trashing our QBs is to deflect all blame off Moorhead
So Moorhead deserves ALL the blame? If you believe that you really are dense.
But then again throwing Moorhead under the bus after one year is really pathetic.
If the offense looks just as lost as last year with Stevens, or Key, I'm off the bandwagon. We need to see this offense actually work like its supposed to in year two.
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04-30-2019, 03:41 PM
#274

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Mullen's offense made Fitz look a lot better than he really was. And that's not knock on Fitz. He did what was asked of him.
Moorehead has been an OC and QB coach for years but you think he can’t breakdown what Fitz was asked to do under Mullen?
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04-30-2019, 03:47 PM
#275

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Good post. 2014 Bama and the Hugh Freeze era broke Mullen.
OT: Mullen sure is running his mouth a lot at Florida. I guess he forgot his ass has trouble cashing the checks his mouth makes. It could get awkward in Gainsville in a few years.
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04-30-2019, 03:48 PM
#276

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
I don’t have a problem with that. Where did I post anything against that? I was responding directly to the idea that Moorehead thought Mullen had “coached Fitz up” more than he actually was, which was a weak take and insinuates that Moorehead has no clue what he had at QB. But as far as the coach speak stuff coming in, I’ve no issues with that.
Sorry, I shouldn't have quoted you. My comments were directed at anyone complaining about Joe's hiring day coachspeak 18 months later. If you're not one of those we're good.
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04-30-2019, 03:49 PM
#277

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Moorehead has been an OC and QB coach for years but you think he can’t breakdown what Fitz was asked to do under Mullen?
Well, y'all say he sucks as an OC/QB coach soooooo maybe he can't.
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04-30-2019, 03:53 PM
#278

Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
Sorry, I shouldn't have quoted you. My comments were directed at anyone complaining about Joe's hiring day coachspeak 18 months later. If you're not one of those we're good.
No problem at all. Lord knows that I’ve been critical about a lot of things offensively this past season. But that’s definitely not an issue I have with him. And there’s no doubt in my mind he was disappointed with the offense as well.
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04-30-2019, 03:54 PM
#279

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I don't understand why he couldn't beat Fitz out. He obviously the better QB on paper. He has really more of an up side than Fitz. I don't understand why Joe didn't pull Fitz in the LSU game and tell Key "Key, you're the man now."
If Fitz doesn't break his ankle in the Egg Bowl he probably does get benched for a couple of drives vs LSU, Florida, Kentucky. His sympathy clout was on max the whole year once Joe took over and told him he was gonna win the heisman. Joe was never going to bench him no matter what once he said that.
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04-30-2019, 04:05 PM
#280

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
If Fitz doesn't break his ankle in the Egg Bowl he probably does get benched for a couple of drives vs LSU, Florida, Kentucky. His sympathy clout was on max the whole year once Joe took over and told him he was gonna win the heisman. Joe was never going to bench him no matter what once he said that.
Nick was very much in trouble of losing his job after LSU. Nick straightened up after that game and that's not a coincidence.
Very curious to me around that time were Joe's comment about how he was tired of protecting Nick. I think it was obviously a slip of the tongue but very telling about our situation at the time.
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