Was 2009 our best recruiting class ever?

[Where'sWaldo]

I just went back and looked at our classes dating back to 2009 and that class was amazing. I don't know that we can ever produce a class like this again...

Chad Bumphis
Fletcher Cox
Josh Boyd
Tyler Russell
Chris Smith
Cam Lawrence
Ladarious Perkins
Deontae Skinner
Nickoe Whitley
Gabe Jackson
Baker Swedenburg
Pernell Mcphee
Chris White
Johnthon Banks
Leon Berry
Darius Slay

[HoopsDawg]

It's the standard for what we should try and achieve. It was a strong year in MS and we dominated the state. We also signed 5 or 6 quality Jucos. Croom did a heck of job with that class.

[Bass Chaser]

Not if you're a star watcher. Our average player rank according to 247 was 83.75. 2013 was 85.97 so according to average player rank last year is the best year under Mullen. Class size makes a big difference in class rank. However, if you look at the production, development, and where they are today it's hard to argue.

[HoopsDawg]

Not if you're a star watcher. Our average player rank according to 247 was 83.75. 2013 was 85.97 so according to average player rank last year is the best year under Mullen. Class size makes a big difference in class rank. However, if you look at the production, development, and where they are today it's hard to argue.

Paul has become much more generous with his star rankings since 2009. The days of an MSU commit being a 2 star are all but extinct on his site.

[engie]

It's the standard for what we should try and achieve. It was a strong year in MS and we dominated the state. We also signed 5 or 6 quality Jucos. Croom did a heck of job with that class.

This is such a crock of shit.

13 of 27 members of that class committed to Mullen in the final 2 months.

[engie]

Paul has become much more generous with his star rankings since 2009. The days of an MSU commit being a 2 star are all but extinct on his site.

Since 24/7 existed in 2009 and all...

[HoopsDawg]

Since 24/7 existed in 2009 and all...

Well there you go. You just proved the guys post inaccurate.

[cubswillwinitonedaydawg]

It's the standard for what we should try and achieve. It was a strong year in MS and we dominated the state. We also signed 5 or 6 quality Jucos. Croom did a heck of job with that class.

Agreed, but I don't think some of those would have panned out as well under Croom as they did under Mullen. Bumphis and probably a couple others may have never signed if Mullen hadn't been hired.

Either way, in that class, looks like you got 8 guys that made at least an NFL practice roster, 1 that will be a 1st-2nd round pick (Jackson), and a few others that may get a shot at a late round pick or free-agent deal (Skinner, Russell, Perkins, Whitley). Impressive.

[HoopsDawg]

Agreed, but I don't think some of those would have panned out as well under Croom as they did under Mullen.

No argument there.

[HancockCountyDog]

This is such a crock of shit.

13 of 27 members of that class committed to Mullen in the final 2 months.

Yeah, but those 13 were:

Brandon Heavens
Mardrecas Hood
Ricco Sanders
BIlly Hamilton
Darius Slay
Ladarius Perkins
Dennis Thames
Chad Bumphis
Pernell McPhee (committed to Croom in July)
Johnathan McKenzie
Leon Berry
Sean Brauchle
Maurice Langston

Really, just Perkins, Bumphis, getting McPhee to recommit and placing Slay. Not bad in a coach's first recruiting class, but 9 of those 13 had little to absolutely no impact at MSU.

Look, Croom was a disaster, no one can argue that point, but the best thing he did while at MSU was beating Bama in Starkville (one of my favorite memories) and leaving Mullen the following 14 recruits:

Heath Hutchins
Montrell Conner
Gabe Jackson
Chris White
William Shumpert
Deontae Skinner
Josh Boyd
Nickoe Whitley
FLetcher Cox
Johnthan Banks
Chris SMith
Tyler Russell
Cameron Lawrence
Sam Watts

Eight of those 14 commits have played or will play in the NFL and that is not counting Russell who I think fits a pro style offense way, way better than what we run.

At the end of the day, who gives a shit, this was like 5 years ago.

[HoopsDawg]

Damn, Mullen watered down the class. He got Perkins and that's it. People like to give him credit for Bumphis, but Bumphis was going to MSU. He wanted to stay close to home and play with Tyler Russell.

[cubswillwinitonedaydawg]

Forgot about Montrell Conner. Remembered him leaving and never did hear anything else. Here's what ESPN had on a Signing Day Booms and Busts:

Biggest disappointment: RB Montrell Conner (Monroe, La.)

Conner had offers from USC, Oklahoma, Georgia and Tennessee and was ranked as the No. 7 running back prospect in the country by ESPN. He redshirted his first season and left the program in August of that next year. He attended junior college in 2010 and then signed with Troy.

I didn't realized his offer list was that impressive. He played at Co-Lin and I don't think he ever played a down at Troy.

[dawg27]

u right on that mullen does not get enough props for what he did to keep that class going mullen did good and has done well in every class on finding good platers

[engie]

Yeah, but those 13 were:

Brandon Heavens
Mardrecas Hood
Ricco Sanders
BIlly Hamilton
Darius Slay
Ladarius Perkins
Dennis Thames
Chad Bumphis
Pernell McPhee (committed to Croom in July)
Johnathan McKenzie
Leon Berry
Sean Brauchle
Maurice Langston

Really, just Perkins, Bumphis, getting McPhee to recommit and placing Slay. Not bad in a coach's first recruiting class, but 9 of those 13 had little to absolutely no impact at MSU.

Look, Croom was a disaster, no one can argue that point, but the best thing he did while at MSU was beating Bama in Starkville (one of my favorite memories) and leaving Mullen the following 14 recruits:

Heath Hutchins
Montrell Conner
Gabe Jackson
Chris White
William Shumpert
Deontae Skinner
Josh Boyd
Nickoe Whitley
FLetcher Cox
Johnthan Banks
Chris SMith
Tyler Russell
Cameron Lawrence
Sam Watts

Eight of those 14 commits have played or will play in the NFL and that is not counting Russell who I think fits a pro style offense way, way better than what we run.

Could you possibly attempt to skew any harder to try to make what point?

It's ****ing stupid to give Croom full credit for a class that half of the total number -- and 7-8 MAJOR contributors(contrary to your initial bullshit analysis) -- committed to Mullen. That was my damn point. Skew away.

[engie]

Damn, Mullen watered down the class. He got Perkins and that's it. People like to give him credit for Bumphis, but Bumphis was going to MSU. He wanted to stay close to home and play with Tyler Russell.

Good thing Darius Slay and Pernell McPhee don't count.

Keep a-spinning.

[bulldawg28]

Damn, Mullen watered down the class. He got Perkins and that's it. People like to give him credit for Bumphis, but Bumphis was going to MSU. He wanted to stay close to home and play with Tyler Russell.

BS. Bumphis wasn't going anywhere near Starkville before Mullen came.

[HoopsDawg]

Good thing Darius Slay and Pernell McPhee don't count.

Keep a-spinning.

Pernell McPhee committed to Croom. Croom did all the leg work. UGA and UF came in late and Mullen's staff held on, but Croom did almost all of the recruiting. It's always interesting to me how people go full-retard when it comes to recruiting.

[engie]

Pernell McPhee committed to Croom. Croom did all the leg work. UGA and UF came in late and Mullen's staff held on, but Croom did almost all of the recruiting. It's always interesting to me how people go full-retard when it comes to recruiting.

I'm sure those long looks in the mirror intrigue the hell out of you...

[HancockCountyDog]

Paul has become much more generous with his star rankings since 2009. The days of an MSU commit being a 2 star are all but extinct on his site.

Sites like Scout, Rivals and 247 will almost never hand out two star commits to teams that have more than a 100 subscribers. Go look at commit lists for teams with 100 subscribers - they just don't want to put up with the flack they get from the people that pay them money. Personally, I look at the times other coaches visit our commits. That tells me all I need to know.

Also, trying to discern who is the better 3 star commit is just ridiculous for a scouting service to do. That is where our staff has excelled and other staffs are getting left behind.

[Goat Holder]

Conner is like one of those Ole Miss 4 stars that they just pull out of nowhere that make no sense. You know something is 'off' with the offer list and the ranking, but you ignore it because you 'just got a 4 starzzz!!11'.