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    If a QB transfers in do we lose any existing QB's on team?

    KT maybe.

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    I think KT might. I bet if he does, he'd transfer to UF and become a big star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    I think KT might. I bet if he does, he'd transfer to UF and become a big star.
    Mullen has his Qb's

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Mullen has his Qb's
    KT IS a Mullen QB... he'd welcome him with open arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    KT IS a Mullen QB... he'd welcome him with open arms.
    Mullen isn't gonna piss off Emory Jones. Fought way too hard to get him. If KT goes anywhere it'll be G5 or 1AA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    KT IS a Mullen QB... he'd welcome him with open arms.
    No chance in hell Mullen brings in KT to Florida. They are on a different level of getting who they want at QB then having to bring in a KT. Mullen probably could have made him great here at State, but that time is gone. It just is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Danko View Post
    No chance in hell Mullen brings in KT to Florida. They are on a different level of getting who they want at QB then having to bring in a KT. Mullen probably could have made him great here at State, but that time is gone. It just is what it is.
    What? kT was not some bum off the street. He was the #5 or 6 dual threat in that class. We’ve decided he must suck so we don’t have to face the music about Moorhead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    KT IS a Mullen QB... he'd welcome him with open arms.
    This should be Florida's fourth quarter song.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Mullen has his Qb's
    LSU would snag him

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    What? kT was not some bum off the street. He was the #5 or 6 dual threat in that class. We’ve decided he must suck so we don’t have to face the music about Moorhead
    I don't think we've decided he sucks, but he's a QB with a very specific skill set that only works in specific offenses and unfortunately for him our offense isn't one of them. Look at the QBs ahead of him in those rankings 1. Tua, 2. Tate Martell, 3. Kellen Mond, 4. Sam Ehlinger. I could plug any of those guys into any type of spread offense in the country and they would succeed because they are all elite passers and have athleticism on top of that, which is why they were all Elite 11 guys. KT has the elite athleticism, but he's not near the passer that those other 4 are. Those guys came into college with NFL arms, and they also played at more competitive programs. KT played in Louisiana where athleticism is going to get you by 9/10 times. He never had to develop that arm and learn how to make the throws the others did. Now, would he succeed in a Dan Mullen offense, ABSOLUTELY. Because Mullen's offense gets by on more of a running QB than a passing QB. But Mullen has a guy at Florida in Emory Jones who is a better version of KT. So KT could try and go to Florida, but he isn't winning that job.

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    The only way KT is gonna get better is by starting every game and playing through the kinks. Unfortunately for everyone involved, no one has that kind of patience anymore. You better be ****ing good right out of the gate these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    The only way KT is gonna get better is by starting every game and playing through the kinks. Unfortunately for everyone involved, no one has that kind of patience anymore. You better be ****ing good right out of the gate these days.
    For me it's the opposite. I think he has a chance to be very good. But like 99% of quarterbacks he needed to redshirt. He wasn't give that opportunity and I think it has put him behind. If we get Stevens it will give him a chance to catch up.

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    If Moorhead goes with a transfer over KT I hope Moorhead himself transfers out at the end of the year. You're a terrible offensive coach if you can't win 8 games with KT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney View Post
    If Moorhead goes with a transfer over KT I hope Moorhead himself transfers out at the end of the year. You're a terrible offensive coach if you can't win 8 games with KT.

    Well JoeMo ain't transferring out at the end of the year. Most of us wanted a more wide open unpredictable offense (which includes more down the field passing) than Mullen ran. JoeMo doesn't want his quarterback running as much as Mullen did, and also wants a more prolific passer than Mullen did and who can run the offense the way that he wanted to run it to begin with but he didn't have a quarterback who could do that this past year. So if he feels he needs to look elsewhere to fit the missing piece in the puzzle then I don't have any problem with him doing so. I really hope KT can emerge as the starting quarterback, but if not we need to have whoever will give us the best opportunity to win running the JoeMo and not a Dan Mullen type offense.
    Last edited by yjnkdawg; 04-23-2019 at 11:36 PM.

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    KT will not be here in 4 months IMO.

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    KT can redshirt and learn under Stevens for a year then either start as a redshirt junior and senior or transfer as a grad transfer that still has 2 years. I think someone said he is on pace to graduate this year. Or I guess he could transfer somewhere else and redshirt while learning the system. He will then run into the same issue he has at MSU, competing with the current group of QBs.

    Bottom line is if he can't complete more than 50% of his passes here then he will probably struggle somewhere else also. Unless he goes to a Mullen type offense where your legs are more important than your arm. My wife asked me if Moorhead was asking too much of a QB to complete 65% of passes.

    Fitz was around the bottom of the SEC in completion percentage with 9 QBs in front of him completing over 60%. Fitz was way below average and he hasn't really been close to 60% in his career. For whatever reason, his accuracy is not consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    Well JoeMo doesn't want his quarterback running as much as Mullen did, and also wants a more prolific passer than Mullen did and who can run the offense the way that he wanted to run it to begin with but he didn't have a quarterback who could do that this past year. So if he feels he needs to look elsewhere to fit the missing piece in the puzzle then I don't have any problem with him doing so. I really hope KT can emerge as the starting quarterback, but if not we need to have whoever will give us the best opportunity to win running the JoeMo and not a Dan Mullen type offense.
    This QB situation will make or break Moorhead. I hate to the tell the guy. But the recipe for success at MSU has been an athletic QB, RB and hard nose defense. Moorhead had all that last year. But to the point.... I?m thinking back
    Over the years, how many true pocket passers have we had ? Or just good passing QBs? Todd Jordan and shell, Madkin and Fant were good by MSU standards and obviously Dak. However, if Moorhead can recruit and get to campus a steady stream of prolific passers, he will have done something in recruiting that many head coaches before him haven?t been able to do.

    We shall see. I know nothing of the Stevens situation. But I?ll be shocked if State gets a grad QB.
    Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 04-24-2019 at 08:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    This QB situation will make or break Moorhead. I hate to the tell the guy. But the recipe for success at MSU has been an athletic QB, RB and hard nose defense. Moorhead had all that last year. But to the point.... I?m thinking back
    Over the years, how many true pocket passers have we had ? Or just good passing QBs? Todd Jordan and shell, Madkin and Fant were good by MSU standards and obviously Dak. However, if Moorhead can recruit and get to campus a steady stream of prolific passers, he will have done something in recruiting that many head coaches before him haven?t been able to do.

    We shall see. I know nothing of the Stevens situation. But I?ll be shocked if State gets a grad QB.
    Agreed...It feels as if we're trending more to the ole miss offense and they're trending more back to our offense under Mullen. With our recruiting and history you mention above, I don't like the odds of Moorhead able to recruit enough quality at the necessary positions to make it work. So we're going to spend 3-4 years turning over our roster and "changing the culture"...what happens when it doesn't work? We're upside down and have to rebuild again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    KT will not be here in 4 months IMO.
    You are out of your damn mind.
    Downvotes_Hype

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    KT can redshirt and learn under Stevens for a year then either start as a redshirt junior and senior or transfer as a grad transfer that still has 2 years. I think someone said he is on pace to graduate this year. Or I guess he could transfer somewhere else and redshirt while learning the system. He will then run into the same issue he has at MSU, competing with the current group of QBs.

    Bottom line is if he can't complete more than 50% of his passes here then he will probably struggle somewhere else also. Unless he goes to a Mullen type offense where your legs are more important than your arm. My wife asked me if Moorhead was asking too much of a QB to complete 65% of passes.

    Fitz was around the bottom of the SEC in completion percentage with 9 QBs in front of him completing over 60%. Fitz was way below average and he hasn't really been close to 60% in his career. For whatever reason, his accuracy is not consistent.
    I think we lose site of how close 55% in a season is in a season to 60%, with the number of attempts Fitz has made over his career. 2016 he needed only 1.6 more completions or less drops per game. 2017 he needed 1.08 more completions or less drop per game. 2018 2 more completions or less drops per game. I mean I know I can find that many drops alone this past season to get him to 60%...almost with just one WR. Not saying he was accurate, he wasn’t but he wasn’t as inaccurate or as far away from 60% as many think. And it’s on him as well but the difference is closer than many think

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