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    Vic without a dominant player

    Vic is a good coach but the last 3 years he has had a dominant player
    Victoria than T. One year we had two and probably should have won it all.

    The point is it ain?t coaching its players

    I don?t think we have a dominant player on the roster
    May have to settle for a few steps back for the next few years

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    As good as T is/was, I think Vic will win his first Title when he has an athletic Center that can run the court and move quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    As good as T is/was, I think Vic will win his first Title when he has an athletic Center that can run the court and move quicker.
    Last year was our year to win as we did actually have the best team in the country. Will be surprised if we ever win one now because its just hard to get back to that level and have everything go your way. VV and Big T were 5 star recruits no matter what the recruiting sites said.

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    We'll be back

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    All Vic had to do was switch to a zone defense. He was outcoached

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    All Vic had to do was switch to a zone defense. He was outcoached
    They shoot like 40% from 3, made 13 today....not sure zone was the answer, especially when we've never run one

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    Bibby,
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    Precious Taylor
    Scott
    Rickea Jackson
    Jayla Hemingway
    JaMya Young
    We have 1 McDonalds AA in Rickea Jackson and 4 other incoming players nominated for McDonalds AA....Vic is also getting closer on 6-7 5 Star Kamillo Cardosa for next years signing class.
    Last edited by Leeshouldveflanked; 03-31-2019 at 04:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Bibby,
    Espinoza-Hunter
    Carter
    Precious Taylor
    Scott
    Rickea Jackson
    Jayla Hemingway
    JaMya Young
    We have 1 McDonalds AA in Rickea Jackson and 4 other incoming players nominated for McDonalds AA....
    I think Vic will be okay. I think the run will continue.

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    Those are good players and no mistake
    We will certainly be a competitive tourney team
    But ask Dawn Staley how easy it is to be a dominant team without a dominant player
    Everyone of the final 8 this year has one
    Last edited by Sparrows2; 03-31-2019 at 04:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    They shoot like 40% from 3, made 13 today....not sure zone was the answer, especially when we've never run one
    Zone was definitely the answer. One player literally beat us. There is no way a team shouldn't know how/or only play one style of defense. Zone would have changed the total complexity or at least slowed down #20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Bibby,
    Espinoza-Hunter
    Carter
    Precious Taylor
    Scott
    Rickea Jackson
    Jayla Hemingway
    JaMya Young
    We have 1 McDonalds AA in Rickea Jackson and 4 other incoming players nominated for McDonalds AA....Vic is also getting closer on 6-7 5 Star Kamillo Cardosa for next years signing class.
    I'm not sure how this stacks up, but South Carolina is dominating in recruiting. Have you seen their signing class for next year?

    http://www.espn.com/high-school/girl...579/class/2019

    They have 4 5* players signed. Not sure if they'll be able to get the most out of these players, or how reliable women's basketball recruiting rankings are - but I'm sure these four kids have athletic ability regardless of whether Staley can coach them or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Zone was definitely the answer. One player literally beat us. There is no way a team shouldn't know how/or only play one style of defense. Zone would have changed the total complexity or at least slowed down #20.
    I disagree. One player did not beat us. Plus we don't know how to play zone. They shoot incredibly as a team and they would have tons of wide open 3's vs a zone. A zone would have made it a worse loss in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    I disagree. One player did not beat us. Plus we don't know how to play zone. They shoot incredibly as a team and they would have tons of wide open 3's vs a zone. A zone would have made it a worse loss in my opinion
    Yep. That was my point in the game thread. They had a two for which is great perimeter shooting with the pick and roll. If Cal ever recruiter lights out perimeter shooters his team would be unstoppable every year with his pick and roll offense. Only way to beat a team like Oregon is to full court press them and make them not able to get in their half court offense. We aren’t built like that and therefore they were a bad matchup with us. Some teams are just a bad matchup for you and it’s just hard to overcome it.

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    Rickea Jackson will be better than Victoria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparrows2 View Post
    Vic is a good coach but the last 3 years he has had a dominant player
    Victoria than T. One year we had two and probably should have won it all.

    The point is it ain?t coaching its players

    I don?t think we have a dominant player on the roster
    May have to settle for a few steps back for the next few years
    Ha. You need to spend some more time studying before getting your sports analyst degree.

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    In two years Vic will have four 5 star players positions 1-4, Chloe Bibby, 6’5 Promise Taylor, & Breamber Scott. The players are light years more talented than what Vic took to 2 final fours. I’m not following the argument that we have been good because of players not coaching but we are gonna be worse with better players?

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    Just stop it
    T was SEC player of the year and Victoria was the eighth overall pick in the WNBA draft
    But Vic will have players “light years” better?

    I can’t have a serious sports discussion with yoy

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    I think the one thing what we were missing that could have taken us all the way is Jazz and Danbury being shooting threats from 3. That's the only negative I can say about those 2

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    With how Vic wants to play I think you are correct. People forget what a project T was. Coaches did an amazing job turning her into the dominant player she became.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparrows2 View Post
    Just stop it
    T was SEC player of the year and Victoria was the eighth overall pick in the WNBA draft
    But Vic will have players ?light years? better?

    I can?t have a serious sports discussion with yoy
    yoy are right about that. Keep studying.

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