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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog2488 View Post
    You don't agree with me. Got it. Cool.
    Maybe he is just tired (like me) of everything being blamed on Mullen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe he is just tired (like me) of everything being blamed on Mullen.
    I'm not going to get personal because it wouldn't be ethical on a public message board, but I'm close to that situation. The main reason we were never in it was because Mullen comes off as a jerk. Yes, Judd played a part in steering Cam away from State and possibly to OM in that specific situation, as I've already admitted, but again there is no conspiracy against State at Clinton High School. That's all I'm going to say about it. Not trying to argue with anyone here. I'm just telling you what I know to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog2488 View Post
    I'm not going to get personal because it wouldn't be ethical on a public message board, but I'm close to that situation. The main reason we were never in it was because Mullen comes off as a jerk. Yes, Judd played a part in steering Cam away from State and possibly to OM in that specific situation, as I've already admitted, but again there is no conspiracy against State at Clinton High School. That's all I'm going to say about it. Not trying to argue with anyone here. I'm just telling you what I know to be true.
    Judd, is that you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe he is just tired (like me) of everything being blamed on Mullen.
    Who's blamed everything on Mullen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Who's blamed everything on Mullen?
    We didn't get Akers bc of Mullen

    Our recruiting sucked bc of Mullen

    Fitz didn't fit Moorhead's offense bc Mullen didn't teach him to read defenses.

    We didn't beat OM enough bc of Mullen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We didn't get Akers bc of Mullen

    Our recruiting sucked bc of Mullen

    Fitz didn't fit Moorhead's offense bc Mullen didn't teach him to read defenses.

    We didn't beat OM enough bc of Mullen.

    Etc

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    Well while Mullen was the HC wouldn't 1, 2, & 4 be because of Mullen? He was the HC. The same way you're placing all the blame on Moorhead for this season Bc he's the HC. Am I missing something? After you answer we can get back to 2020 recruiting or you can answer in a separate thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We didn't get Akers bc of Mullen

    Our recruiting sucked bc of Mullen

    Fitz didn't fit Moorhead's offense bc Mullen didn't teach him to read defenses.

    We didn't beat OM enough bc of Mullen.

    Etc

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    Find where anyone said we didn’t Akers because of Mullen
    Saying Mullen was an asshole and didn’t like recruiting that’s prerty much fact
    Saying Mullen had been whoring us out the last 5 years he was here . Fact
    The reading a defense. I think Fitz was the one that basically said that .
    Saying Mullen quit on his team his last year after Bama . Fact

    Saying Mullen turned the program around and got us to heights on national level like no other . Also Fact.

    It’s more like some of you can’t get on board with this coach and staff and keep bringing up Mullen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Well while Mullen was the HC wouldn't 1, 2, & 4 be because of Mullen? He was the HC. The same way you're placing all the blame on Moorhead for this season Bc he's the HC. Am I missing something? After you answer we can get back to 2020 recruiting or you can answer in a separate thread.
    Our recruiting didn't suck bc of Mullen. It sucks bc of who we are and the conf we're in. I didn't need inside info to know you guys were wrong on that fantasy of a top 15 finish... hell, I said at the time we'd be where we always are

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Our recruiting didn't suck bc of Mullen. It sucks bc of who we are and the conf we're in. I didn't need inside info to know you guys were wrong on that fantasy of a top 15 finish... hell, I said at the time we'd be where we always are
    So because of this you should never complain about Moorhead recruiting also correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    So because of this you should never complain about Moorhead recruiting also correct?
    I'm much more concerned with his crappy offense than his recruiting. I think his offense needs a talent advantage to run well, and we will never have that with any consistency in our conference. Look at this season, when we had a talent advantage, we rolled on offense. When we were at a deficit or equal, we sputtered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    So because of this you should never complain about Moorhead recruiting also correct?

    Well played ..
    that ends that conversation..

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'm much more concerned with his crappy offense than his recruiting. I think his offense needs a talent advantage to run well, and we will never have that with any consistency in our conference.
    So because of this you should never complain about Moorhead recruiting also correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    Judd, is that you?
    Haha nope. Just someone trying to clear up the false narrative out there about a conspiracy currently going on at Clinton High School to steer kids away from State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    So because of this you should never complain about Moorhead recruiting also correct?
    "I'll make this statement because I'm not gonna stick around for the melt & complaining. Im not running or hiding it's the internet. I'm in too good of a mood this morning. We missed a great chance this class to really make a mark. This class isn't a failure or bust but it's definitely not the big class we wanted or more importantly needed. This is recruiting it's not for the weak. I'll be disappointed today but tomorrow I'll be right back looking at 2020 guys. Recruiting is my passion not my life so I won't be losing my mind over it (Sorry Shotgun). People have every right to be disappointed. I said wait til the end & if the class isn't up to par by all means go off. Well go off guys. Later!"

    This was you. Even you say it was a subpar class, but mad that I complain

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    "I'll make this statement because I'm not gonna stick around for the melt & complaining. Im not running or hiding it's the internet. I'm in too good of a mood this morning. We missed a great chance this class to really make a mark. This class isn't a failure or bust but it's definitely not the big class we wanted or more importantly needed. This is recruiting it's not for the weak. I'll be disappointed today but tomorrow I'll be right back looking at 2020 guys. Recruiting is my passion not my life so I won't be losing my mind over it (Sorry Shotgun). People have every right to be disappointed. I said wait til the end & if the class isn't up to par by all means go off. Well go off guys. Later!"

    This was you. Even you say it was a subpar class, but mad that I complain
    You still haven't answered my question. Where did I get mad at you for complaining? I believe I've even said I have no problem with how you post that we just see things differently. So for the 3rd time "SO BECAUSE OF THIS YOU SHOULD NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT MOORHEAD RECRUITING ALSO CORRECT"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    You still haven't answered my question. Where did I get mad at you for complaining? I believe I've even said I have no problem with how you post that we just see things differently. So for the 3rd time "SO BECAUSE OF THIS YOU SHOULD NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT MOORHEAD RECRUITING ALSO CORRECT"?
    I complain on his recruiting bc I feel we were sold a bill of goods on his elite recruiting. If he steps up the offense this year, I'll have much less concerns with recruiting. I wanna see this offense work against a team equal in talent or more talented. Until that happens, I think we have to recruit much better to get 8-9 wins consistently

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I complain on his recruiting bc I feel we were sold a bill of goods on his elite recruiting. If he steps up the offense this year, I'll have much less concerns with recruiting. I wanna see this offense work against a team equal in talent or more talented. Until that happens, I think we have to recruit much better to get 8-9 wins consistently
    But how can you complain about this elite recruiting when you yourself said you knew it couldn't happen? Not Bc of Moorhead but Bc of MSU. We'll always recruit in the same area. Those are your words way back before the class was even halfway finished. So you weren't sold a bill of goods because you didn't buy it. So how can you complain about being duped when you said you didn't believe what was being said. But we've taken up too much space on the recruiting board with this. You shouldn't complain about recruiting though because in your words "it's not Mullen/Moorhead fault it's because of MSU & the conference we're in". Now back to 2020 recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Well played ..
    that ends that conversation..
    We only wish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    We only wish...
    Sorry, I get sidetracked easily haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Sorry, I get sidetracked easily haha
    Haha

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