Potential new MLB rules

[msstate7]

I 100% agree with this, the fact that Bryce Harper is about to get a huge contract when he hit .217 last year is cause of a horrible product.

No he didn't. Bryce slash line: .249/.393/.496. Ops .889

[Spectre]

I don't see how more offense leads to shorter games. If anything, more offense will just cause me to watch less. The fastest games I've ever seen are all pitcher dominated.

If you incentivize balls in play and punish strikeouts you won?t have 10 pitch AB?s. Game moves quicker and has more action. The problem is sitting around bored watching the pitcher and catcher throw it back and forth while batter slowly walks back to the dugout or to 1B. HR?s are fun, but a couple fun 10 seconds over 3 hours does not a good product make.

[IMissJack]

Making the umps call balls and strikes the way the did in the old days, as the rules are written (letters to the knees) would force hitters to swing instead of waiting for a perfect pitch, since the actual strike zone called today is small. Watch old film, and the catchers are barely squatting behind the batter sometimes.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Dan uggla was a much better player than lemke.

Lemke career slash line: .246/.317/.324
Uggla: .241/.336/.447

fWAR...
Lemke 7.0 over 11 seasons ~ 0.64 per season
Uggla 23.4 over 10 seasons ~ 2.34 per season

Your right- I am over emphasizing that Uggla only became garbage in Atlanta, when it mattered to me.

But, Uggla was getting paid like a marquee player. Where Lemke was clutch in the post season and not paid to lead the team in RBIs

Now I am throwing an ace. Gary Sheffield is my guy. He struckout fewer times in 22 years of glorious baseball than the new normal Uggla in 11 years. Comparing marquee salary to marquee salary.

[BrunswickDawg]

Dan uggla was a much better player than lemke.

Lemke career slash line: .246/.317/.324
Uggla: .241/.336/.447

fWAR...
Lemke 7.0 over 11 seasons ~ 0.64 per season
Uggla 23.4 over 10 seasons ~ 2.34 per season

I'd take a team of 9 ATL Lemkes and beat your team of 9 ATL Ugglas 9 out of 10 times. FWar be damned.

[msstate7]

I'd take a team of 9 ATL Lemkes and beat your team of 9 ATL Ugglas 9 out of 10 times. FWar be damned.

You better have 9 of Pedro Martinez bc you wouldn't score a lick. Want me to compare their career hits, walks, extra base hits? Lemke was a good glove and that's it. He was a black hole on offense

[msstate7]

What a lot of you guys miss in the Ks are bad are that they only count as one out. Case in point, the 2 being discussed here...

Lemke in career 3664 PA, lemke had 94 GIDP.
Uggla in career 5509 PA, uggla had 75 GIDP

So in 1845 less PA, lemke hit into 19 more double plays. Lemke got 2 outs at a much higher clip... maybe more Ks by Lemke would've been a good thing

[RougeDawg]

Baseball is going to kill itself while trying to increase offensive numbers. They don?t realize most fans like the game for things other than the HR. When it becomes the NBA on a diamond I?m done with it. Especially when Bonds and Raffy etc. are banned for basically doing the same thing.
Let?s hit HRs and score a lot, but ban the guys that hit HRs and drove in runs and call them cheaters. MLB is trying to cheat the fans.

What this guy says. MLB is falling into the trap of the instant grits, instant news, impatient society we have today add in that baseball is a thinking mans game, you already eliminate a large swath of the population as viewers. Those clowns aren?t watching any way. Why piss off the loyal fans you do have to cater to those who will never attend even if you allow the defense to hit the guy with the ball for an out or allow the hitter to carry the bat and knock the throws away.

TV coverage was the biggest factor in baseball attendance. Baseball is played during the hottest time of the year and the clients most apt to attend are 40+. As they age the AC and Couch start to look more appealing than 95 degree stands. It still amazes me that they still build professional sports stadiums south of the Ohio river without some sort of retractable roof. Houston routinely air conditions the stadium all day and just opens up for the game. Makes it much more bearable to watch in the sweltering summer months.

Bottom line is yes, MLB must get creative but they cannot try to cater to an audience that never will attend.

[coachnorm]

What this guy says. MLB is falling into the trap of the instant grits, instant news, impatient society we have today add in that baseball is a thinking mans game, you already eliminate a large swath of the population as viewers. Those clowns aren?t watching any way. Why piss off the loyal fans you do have to cater to those who will never attend even if you allow the defense to hit the guy with the ball for an out or allow the hitter to carry the bat and knock the throws away.

TV coverage was the biggest factor in baseball attendance. Baseball is played during the hottest time of the year and the clients most apt to attend are 40+. As they age the AC and Couch start to look more appealing than 95 degree stands. It still amazes me that they still build professional sports stadiums south of the Ohio river without some sort of retractable roof. Houston routinely air conditions the stadium all day and just opens up for the game. Makes it much more bearable to watch in the sweltering summer months.

Bottom line is yes, MLB must get creative but they cannot try to cater to an audience that never will attend.

Very respectable statement and mostly on point. You have stated the heat for a summer game which is on point. I would like to state that extending the games to assure commercials are shown extends the time period being fried to death by summer heat. There might be a threshold of exposure to elements. Shorten the games means shortening heat exposure and maybe more will attend. Remember while commercials are being shown, viewers just leave the television and do something else while the attendees are imprisoned waiting for the game to proceed? Your last statement has credibility but the reality is the young have rejected baseball in a sustainable manner and the graybeards are dieing off. Baseball can not sustain itself buy catering to the dieing off and not their potential replacements? Summer basketball and soccer are harvesting the replacements?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Very respectable statement and mostly on point. You have stated the heat for a summer game which is on point. I would like to state that extending the games to assure commercials are shown extends the time period being fried to death by summer heat. There might be a threshold of exposure to elements. Shorten the games means shortening heat exposure and maybe more will attend. Remember while commercials are being shown, viewers just leave the television and do something else while the attendees are imprisoned waiting for the game to proceed? Your last statement has credibility but the reality is the young have rejected baseball in a sustainable manner and the graybeards are dieing off. Baseball can not sustain itself buy catering to the dieing off and not their potential replacements? Summer basketball and soccer are harvesting the replacements?

Check out this article on the nature of soccer fans in Atlanta....maybe baseball teams need a roof and move to the suburbs.

American cities are not the same demographics as the past. Not a reason to change baseball, in my opinion. I went to an MLS game in northern New Jersey, the crowd is like another nation, with another language with some familiar things still present.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...all-love-story

[coachnorm]

Check out this article on the nature of soccer fans in Atlanta....maybe baseball teams need a roof and move to the suburbs.

American cities are not the same demographics as the past. Not a reason to change baseball, in my opinion. I went to an MLS game in northern New Jersey, the crowd is like another nation, with another language with some familiar things still present.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...all-love-story

Not to say that you are not credible but who is going to replace the graybeards when they die off? If baseball does not change, the graybeards will be baseballs legacy.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Not to say that you are not credible but who is going to replace the graybeards when they die off? If baseball does not change, the graybeards will be baseballs legacy.

The greybeards are not dying off - the graybeards got rich, the richest people on Earth. They had fewer kids than preceding generations of Americans, some much less than others.

Baseball will be fine. It's awesome the way it is.

[Spectre]

Baseball will be fine. It's awesome the way it is.

They wouldn’t be looking at these changes if that were true. Nobody wants to pay good money for walks and K’s.

[msstate7]

Baseball will be fine. It's awesome the way it is.

Yep. The ones that care so much ?saving? baseball by changing aren?t fans of it start with

[msstate7]

?The bottom line for Major League Baseball continued to be strong in 2018, even as growth slowed compared with previous years.

For the 16th consecutive year, MLB saw record gross revenues. For 2018, baseball-related revenues were $10.3 billion, according to industry sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The revenues do not include the $2.58 billion sale of BAMTech to Disney that is reported as capital.

The league passed the $10 billion threshold in 2017, but growth slowed from the highly accelerated rate seen in years prior.

The league saw gate revenues flat for 2018, but because of a 4% drop in attendance attributed largely to bad weather in the spring and a change in how the Miami Marlins and the Toronto Blue Jays accounted for sales, ancillary revenues tied to attendance, such as concessions and parking, sagged.
While attendance was down, television revenues were largely flat, with no significant deals kicking in. Sponsorship revenues were up.

While growth slowed in 2018, don?t expect that to continue heading into the 2019 season. More than one lucrative sponsorship deal is on the horizon, as are new revenues from a streaming media rights deal with DAZN. In 2022, a new extension reached with FOX will kick in; it totals $5.1 billion and runs through 2028. Talks to determine whether ESPN and TBS continue to carry MLB nationally are ongoing, and those deals could kick in then as well.

Since 1992, when Bud Selig took over as commissioner on a full-time basis, league gross revenues have grown 377% when accounting for inflation.?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-for-2018/amp/

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If you consider Forbes a credible source (I do), then doesn?t sound like mlb is in trouble at all

[BuckyIsAB****]

1. There is talk of a universal DH in both leagues. Personally I like the fact that pitchers hit in one league and not the other but this wouldn't bother me. My idea is to let pitchers hit and have a DH- so 10 in the batting order. And let MLB teams can pick any pitcher to hit whether he is playing or not or has been subbed out.


2. There is talk of lowering the mound or moving the mound further back. Thanks Jordan Hicks, Aroldis Chapman, and Justin Verlander.** I don't really like this rule. I like watching pitchers dominate some.


3. Pitchers would have to pitch to three batters at a minimum. So- no more LOOGY throws one pitch and gets a LH hitter out and then bring in someone else. Really would change strategy- of course relief pitchers that have closer splits would be valued more than ever. I think this could lead to more intentional walks potentially. Like- have a LHP throw to a LH hitter, IWBB RH hitter and then come back and throw to a LH hitter. The main intent is to minimize pitching changes leading to shorter game times and more offense. Again- not wild about this. You should be able to use players as you see fit.

4. Expanding rosters from 25 to 26. I LIKE this. Personally I'd expand it to 28.

5. Talk about changing how service time is calculated. This NEEDS to be done. Teams are keeping good players in the minors so that they can save money down the road. Which honestly sucks for the player and the fans. See Hunter Renfroe. Like the talk here.

Basically MLB is trying to shorten games and create more offense. I say legalize steroids and let's have 1998 but now with pitchers throwing 105 MPH.

I also hope to see MLB expand to Montreal and Las Vegas.

Now THAT I would watch

[BuckyIsAB****]

My biggest beef with pro baseball is that there is so much complicated shit like service time and arbitration and all that that is extremely confusing and hard to follow. Not to mention that they play 163 games it makes the reg season drag and the games dont mean as much.

As far as on the field Im good with most of it except the strikeouts now. Guys dont even give a shit about striking out and it happens entirely too much. In college and high school ball if you strike out you are the biggest loser on the face of the planet and it means something to the P. Its not like that in the MLB