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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggie_Style View Post
    Hell I'd fire Moorhead today and make Shoop HC.....he accounts for the only real success we've had since Mullet left
    Shoop didn't do anything any other pretty good DC would've done with the most talented defense in the country.

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    Hud will never be the head man here. I'm surprised we even let him come back as an assistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy dawg View Post
    Shoop didn't do anything any other pretty good DC would've done with the most talented defense in the country.
    I thought he did a good job. Bama and Clemson were every bit as talented on defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy dawg View Post
    Shoop didn't do anything any other pretty good DC would've done with the most talented defense in the country.
    Yes he did. Grantham wouldn't have coached this D to #1. What was done with limited LB depth and in the secondary was pretty impressive. His schematics sure messed with some teams too. Not saying he did it all by himself ... the D staff certainly contributed but Shoop was pretty top notch this past year.

    ETA: When injuries plagued the backend the guys that stepped in didn't miss a beat. These were guys I thought would be pretty decent, but they played lights out.

    To add something else tho: I don't think I like the idea of Shoop as the HC. I do prefer OCs that hire good to great DC and leave them alone, as a general rule. There are some exceptions tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Yes he did. Grantham wouldn't have coached this D to #1. What was done with limited LB depth and in the secondary was pretty impressive. His schematics sure messed with some teams too. Not saying he did it all by himself ... the D staff certainly contributed but Shoop was pretty top notch this past year.
    Yeah it was the best secondary play I've seen in a long while and that's Shoops specialty. Shoop did a great job all the way around but I was super impressed with how much better our secondary was.

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    Bill Clark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Bill Clark.
    ^^^^^^
    The guy knows how to win with less than optimal circumstances

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    EXACTLY! We'll see next year how really good he is and I guarantee some here

    won't be blowing him like they were this year.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    It works out perfectly. No. Crooting Moorehead will decline even Moore and HUD has a good year at Austin Peay and all things fall into place. May happen the next year. But it could certainly happen. JoMo won't be the coach here more than 2 more years.
    Romans 5:8

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    WHY DOES EVERYONE LOVE HUD SO MUCH??!?

    He was a good recruiter here, he had early success at a G5, cheated (he knew what Saunders was when he hired him), and then the whole thing fell apart. Spends one year here where he doesn't do anything of note.

    I think 5% of his love is that he's a State guy who's less likely to leave us if he has success, 20% is that he's the only name they know and they like ot pretend they're plugged in to the cfb world, and 70% is that people thought he'd be good when he left for ULL and since then hasn't bothered to reevaluate that opinion. Only 5% is that people genuinely thought it all through and still think he'd be the best coach for us.

    Like yeah he's a State guy and he's less likely to leave us than most other coaches. But 1) that doesn't mean he wouldn't leave, and 2) he's not an X's and O's guy. You'd have to have a DC AND and OC. And continuity on offence is a heck of lot more important than on D... all those years of new DCs and Sirmon was the only one who produced a bad D. Mullen leaves and even a slight change in offence results in a disaster.

    We can't pay our coaches enough to keep them as is. You really want to add in the need for an OC? Then if he's good he'll get poached (by Bama or to be an HC), and we've got to find a new quality OC that runs the same system, which rules out 4/5 OCs. It would be a disaster, especially with how hard it is for us to recruit quality skill players that can excel with talent alone.

    Hud is Matt Luke. Yeah the fanbase knows him and had a good opinion of him and he's very loyal and knows MS recruiting... but at the end of the day he's not an SEC HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah he's a strange bird.
    Funny everyone is mentioning that......I felt that way too a little bit. He has bounced around a bit too much for my liking. Something just doesn't seem to square up with Hud. Think it's time to move on from many saying he is the savior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    It works out perfectly. No. Crooting Moorehead will decline even Moore and HUD has a good year at Austin Peay and all things fall into place.
    Aw how cute..another stupid nickname. Your Daddy make it up for ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    May happen the next year. But it could certainly happen. JoMo won't be the coach here more than 2 more years.
    Another bold predication that will turn up incorrect.... Ya just don't learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    WHY DOES EVERYONE LOVE HUD SO MUCH??!?

    He was a good recruiter here, he had early success at a G5, cheated (he knew what Saunders was when he hired him), and then the whole thing fell apart. Spends one year here where he doesn't do anything of note.

    I think 5% of his love is that he's a State guy who's less likely to leave us if he has success, 20% is that he's the only name they know and they like ot pretend they're plugged in to the cfb world, and 70% is that people thought he'd be good when he left for ULL and since then hasn't bothered to reevaluate that opinion. Only 5% is that people genuinely thought it all through and still think he'd be the best coach for us.

    Like yeah he's a State guy and he's less likely to leave us than most other coaches. But 1) that doesn't mean he wouldn't leave, and 2) he's not an X's and O's guy. You'd have to have a DC AND and OC. And continuity on offence is a heck of lot more important than on D... all those years of new DCs and Sirmon was the only one who produced a bad D. Mullen leaves and even a slight change in offence results in a disaster.

    We can't pay our coaches enough to keep them as is. You really want to add in the need for an OC? Then if he's good he'll get poached (by Bama or to be an HC), and we've got to find a new quality OC that runs the same system, which rules out 4/5 OCs. It would be a disaster, especially with how hard it is for us to recruit quality skill players that can excel with talent alone.

    Hud is Matt Luke. Yeah the fanbase knows him and had a good opinion of him and he's very loyal and knows MS recruiting... but at the end of the day he's not an SEC HC.
    Yep... it's a Mississippi mentality.. recycle what you know and don't be open to something new.
    Some people love Hud, i think, because Ninja almost hired him instead of Mullen...

    Either way, he did nothing special while here in my eyes and then got caught up in the Saunders mess and is not so pearly clean as a head coach now.

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