2019 Recruiting Thread

[maroonmania]

And he said MSU is his dream school! If we got extra scholarships, let's use it on Mississippi kids who are proud to wear the logo and the Maroon!

Looks like a very good chance we will have an extra scholarship for both Lawrence (GCHS) and Buys (WCHS).

[maroonmania]

Nope, I’m not. The rest of the division isn’t reaching for kids like Lawrence and Buys. They’re all pretty much set. Their best available guys are more like our top guys and some spots. We continue to undersign and grab up the guys whose coaches played for us because it’s all we can get.

The killer this year was having SO many guys that committed that later decommitted. Not sure the total number but its got to be at the upper end of what we've ever had before.

[msbulldog]

Nope, I?m not. The rest of the division isn?t reaching for kids like Lawrence and Buys. They?re all pretty much set. Their best available guys are more like our top guys and some spots. We continue to undersign and grab up the guys whose coaches played for us because it?s all we can get.

Look Coot quit bashing the players by name! I know one of these players families and they are very good people. You don't know these folks and you have no right to bad mouth these kids. If you have criticisms. leave the names out.

[Doggie_Style]

No point in trying to justify recruiting failures. We?re not getting it done when we have to offer kids like this. You won?t see the rest of our division (minus OM) doing it. This class is still solid but it came apart a bit late. We can?t do that every year and basically cost ourselves 4+/- players.

Completely agree...to be competitive we need to make the sale and sign at least 80% or about 20 players in December

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I think we can all agree that the strategy needs to change with regards to the early signing period.

Right now it's like we're using the early period just to get top talent, and trying to get a well rounded solid class in the Feb one. We sign 14 and then look for 11 more SEC players later. What we should do is shoot for a well rounded class in Dec and use Feb to get try and flip top guys. We should've signed 18-19 in Dec and we could focus our efforts on fewer guys, thus being more likely to get 6 solid players in Feb than we are to get 11.

There's a lot of SEC talent that want to sign in Dec to lock up their place, but schools like Auburn pass on them in the hopes they get a star talent at that spot instead. That's who we should get. Instead Bama gets the star talent in Dec, Auburn settles late on the kid we should have signed early, and we get Lawrence and likely not sign 25 even then.

I think we need to adjust our strategy. Dec is a great chance to get the #2 option on most teams' depth chart that nobody wants to sign early. But by waiting suddenly half the SEC misses on #1 and now we're in a 4 way recruiting battle... offer early and we get 4 #2's, offer late and we get 1 #2 and 3 #3-4 on the board due to loosing a lot of recruiting battles.I'm not saying not to still target the top guys like Moore or DJ James, I'm saying that if we feel they're sketchy to go ahead and sign the backup plan early. If More or James stick around we'll still have room, if they don't we avoid a roster hole by being more aggressive than the rest of the SEC.in the early period

[msstate7]

Look Coot quit bashing the players by name! I know one of these players families and they are very good people. You don't know these folks and you have no right to bad mouth these kids. If you have criticisms. leave the names out.

Wait till they get here and blame everything on them I.e. fitz

[bulldawg28]

Look Coot quit bashing the players by name! I know one of these players families and they are very good people. You don't know these folks and you have no right to bad mouth these kids. If you have criticisms. leave the names out.

Preach! I hope every kid signs with whatever school of their choice and has a great life. Football is just a game. It's not the measure of life or success.

[Cooterpoot]

Look Coot quit bashing the players by name! I know one of these players families and they are very good people. You don't know these folks and you have no right to bad mouth these kids. If you have criticisms. leave the names out.

Call me an a-hole or whatever, that?s all good if they?re walking on. If we?re giving up a scholarship to kids with no P5 offers and limited G5 offers, then it is what it is. Then, during the season when our WRs are the worst in America and we can?t pass block, or our QB not be able to make throws/reads, then everyone is bitching.
We had things set up for a strong ending and we blew it. Plus, a coach screwed us over. It?s the same stuff every single year it seems.
Plus, this is damn sports message board. This isn?t Coddling 101 for college kids.

[hacker]

Looks like we should at least get Emerson

[KOdawg1]

Call me an a-hole or whatever, that?s all good if they?re walking on. If we?re giving up a scholarship to kids with no P5 offers and limited G5 offers, then it is what it is. Then, during the season when our WRs are the worst in America and we can?t pass block, or our QB not be able to make throws/reads, then everyone is bitching.
We had things set up for a strong ending and we blew it. Plus, a coach screwed us over. It?s the same stuff every single year it seems.
Plus, this is damn sports message board. This isn?t Coddling 101 for college kids.

You're not wrong. It's okay to be disappointed as a fan because you're always wanting your team to improve. It doesn't have to be sunshine and roses all the time especially when it's not called for. We didn't handle this recruiting cycle that well. Hopefully Joe learns from it and fixes it in the future.

[MetEdDawg]

You're not wrong. It's okay to be disappointed as a fan because you're always wanting your team to improve. It doesn't have to be sunshine and roses all the time especially when it's not called for. We didn't handle this recruiting cycle that well. Hopefully Joe learns from it and fixes it in the future.

We handled this recruiting cycle exceedingly well. Name me someone we don't currently have committed that we get under Mullen.

Once you do that, I'll immediately counter with the fact we don't get Cross with Mullen here. Moorhead did the best he could. Look at the potential misses we would be highly upset about:

Mingo - Committed to OM since July and they always have the upper hand on WR. Not getting this kid is not a failure because we NEVER get kids like this. But we hired a good WR coach that had a good relationship with him. Done all we can at this point.

Ealy - Folks saying why waste time with him. He's 100% baseball. Now he's for sure playing at least 1 year of football. His recruitment is why 95% of this board isn't to be listened to because months ago that number of people said don't go after him and don't waste time. But now they want him? Makes no sense

Young - Bama commit and we lost his position coach to Bama. Come on guys. We made ground very clearly, but to expect Moorhead to get him is asinine.

Plumlee - Wants to play QB. We have our QB in this class and only under extreme home state bias would anyone say we should take Plumlee to play QB "just in case" or we can always switch him later if it doesn't work out.

Moore is a kid Mullen probably gets. But he's most certainly got some issues as we have seen over the last few days. This class got picked apart by out of state and we were always going to lose some kids to OM. We've got a good class and yes it's hard to watch the schools we compete with sitting in the top 15. Welcome to our entire existence. We've made ground and have some players in this group.

Let's not melt until signing day. Still got time to let this stuff work out

[KOdawg1]

We handled this recruiting cycle exceedingly well. Name me someone we don't currently have committed that we get under Mullen.

Once you do that, I'll immediately counter with the fact we don't get Cross with Mullen here. Moorhead did the best he could. Look at the potential misses we would be highly upset about:

Mingo - Committed to OM since July and they always have the upper hand on WR. Not getting this kid is not a failure because we NEVER get kids like this. But we hired a good WR coach that had a good relationship with him. Done all we can at this point.

Ealy - Folks saying why waste time with him. He's 100% baseball. Now he's for sure playing at least 1 year of football. His recruitment is why 95% of this board isn't to be listened to because months ago that number of people said don't go after him and don't waste time. But now they want him? Makes no sense

Young - Bama commit and we lost his position coach to Bama. Come on guys. We made ground very clearly, but to expect Moorhead to get him is asinine.

Plumlee - Wants to play QB. We have our QB in this class and only under extreme home state bias would anyone say we should take Plumlee to play QB "just in case" or we can always switch him later if it doesn't work out.

Moore is a kid Mullen probably gets. But he's most certainly got some issues as we have seen over the last few days. This class got picked apart by out of state and we were always going to lose some kids to OM. We've got a good class and yes it's hard to watch the schools we compete with sitting in the top 15. Welcome to our entire existence. We've made ground and have some players in this group.

Let's not melt until signing day. Still got time to let this stuff work out

Not melting at all. Out of the top 15 players in the state, we'll get 4. Maybe 5. The staff totally mishandled the D. Washington/Matthew Bedford situation. We should've signed Bedford when Washington elected not to sign early. Now we won't get either. We're gonna end up about 3-4 schollys short of 25. Need to hit the grad transfers to fill it out. And then we're going to sign Lawrence who isn't a P5 player. He's barely even a G5 player. I get state is his dream school but state was my dream school too. But I'm 6'2, 175, slow and white so it wasn't meant to be. Hopefully we finish strong with Mingo. We have some talented players in the class, don't get me wrong. But we missed some opportunities.

[maroonmania]

Not melting at all. Out of the top 15 players in the state, we'll get 4. Maybe 5. The staff totally mishandled the D. Washington/Matthew Bedford situation. We should've signed Bedford when Washington elected not to sign early. Now we won't get either. We're gonna end up about 3-4 schollys short of 25. Need to hit the grad transfers to fill it out. And then we're going to sign Lawrence who isn't a P5 player. He's barely even a G5 player. I get state is his dream school but state was my dream school too. But I'm 6'2, 175, slow and white so it wasn't meant to be. Hopefully we finish strong with Mingo. We have some talented players in the class, don't get me wrong. But we missed some opportunities.

Are you even sure we could have signed Bedford? Was committed to Indiana and stuck with Indiana. I find it hard to believe we would bypass Bedford on the hopes that DW would stick with us in February. DW is not that good to be worth the risk IF Bedford was ready to sign on the dotted line. I don't remember it going down like that though.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not melting at all. Out of the top 15 players in the state, we'll get 4. Maybe 5. The staff totally mishandled the D. Washington/Matthew Bedford situation. We should've signed Bedford when Washington elected not to sign early. Now we won't get either. We're gonna end up about 3-4 schollys short of 25. Need to hit the grad transfers to fill it out. And then we're going to sign Lawrence who isn't a P5 player. He's barely even a G5 player. I get state is his dream school but state was my dream school too. But I'm 6'2, 175, slow and white so it wasn't meant to be. Hopefully we finish strong with Mingo. We have some talented players in the class, don't get me wrong. But we missed some opportunities.

Correct. We could've handled somethings better in this class, however, no matter who the coach is I believe our recruiting classes will look mostly the same until MSU develops a greater network and more regional influence.

We'll never control 100% of Mississippi and we suck and have absolutely no influence or presence out of state. Think about how often local sports talk shows talk about Bama and LSU. Do you sports talk show in AL and LA do the same?

Until that changes our recruiting and team will look basically the same. 80% of a top 10 team but with G5 level talent at 2/3 positions

[Bdawg]

So with all this doom and gloom, who are we getting? Or are we just bitching about recruits that could still sign with us and we are just mad we don't have them in the boat already?

[ShotgunDawg]

So with all this doom and gloom, who are we getting? Or are we just bitching about recruits that could still sign with us and we are just mad we don't have them in the boat already?

I don't think anyone knows. Although opinions on Moorehead will swing wildly on Wednesday depending

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Why do we run plays for Ado?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Why do we run plays for Ado?

This is almost as relevant as anything else in this thread.

[Cooterpoot]

We’re basically down to Mingo, Moore, and Emerson. Then wait on the transfers both ways.

[ShotgunDawg]

We’re basically down to Mingo, Moore, and Emerson. Then wait on the transfers both ways.

Does anyone understand Ealy's recruitment?