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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Reading some of the comments on these threads makes me wonder if some people have ever had a job not working for Daddy at the insurance office.
    I've worked for 4 organizations since 1996 - and that is very low for most people I know. But, I have always looked for opportunities or have been approached about changing jobs a dozen times. I've changed jobs for more money, turned down jobs for more money because I didn't want to move, turned down promotions because it meant doing something I didn't want to do, taken promotions without a pay bump to add to my resume, left jobs with no job in hand because I hated my job, I've had bosses try to keep me when I left, and had one tell me not to let the screen door hit me in the ass on the way out. I turned down a major, high profile, high paying, career making job because my kids wanted to finish high school and my wife's business was doing too well to sell after all the work she had put in and have to start over.

    To think that any football coach - head coach, position coach, analyst, or GA - would think any other way is just comedic. Legendary QB comes calling and wants you - you go. Top College program in the country comes calling, you listen. Old friend has a job opening and wants you, you go. Or maybe, you are tired of the moves and thankful for what you have (Shoop) and stay. It's not a sign of the apocalypse. It's not lack of leadership in the AD's office. It's not rats jumping a sinking ship. It's life.
    Stop with all this damn reality!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Reading some of the comments on these threads makes me wonder if some people have ever had a job not working for Daddy at the insurance office.
    I've worked for 4 organizations since 1996 - and that is very low for most people I know. But, I have always looked for opportunities or have been approached about changing jobs a dozen times. I've changed jobs for more money, turned down jobs for more money because I didn't want to move, turned down promotions because it meant doing something I didn't want to do, taken promotions without a pay bump to add to my resume, left jobs with no job in hand because I hated my job, I've had bosses try to keep me when I left, and had one tell me not to let the screen door hit me in the ass on the way out. I turned down a major, high profile, high paying, career making job because my kids wanted to finish high school and my wife's business was doing too well to sell after all the work she had put in and have to start over.

    To think that any football coach - head coach, position coach, analyst, or GA - would think any other way is just comedic. Legendary QB comes calling and wants you - you go. Top College program in the country comes calling, you listen. Old friend has a job opening and wants you, you go. Or maybe, you are tired of the moves and thankful for what you have (Shoop) and stay. It's not a sign of the apocalypse. It's not lack of leadership in the AD's office. It's not rats jumping a sinking ship. It's life.

    I don't think it can be said any better really. This is a sign of a program that is on the rise.. Noone wanted to take Croom from us. Noone wanted his assistants. This is a problem our fanbase isn't used to so they think the sky is falling and we aren't doing enough and are the problem. The only problem is that we have established a winning culture at MSU in Football but we aren't at the top... So some coaches are going to take the chance to move up to someone who is if the chance arrives.

    It just really sucks cause that school on top or near the top, is 90 miles away and in our conference.. and we haven't beaten them in a long time.

    Guys get over it, stop b!tching about someone make a better life for themselves. As long as they handle it correctly, just move on and believe in Joe to make the best coaching hire possible with what we have to offer (a lot...)

    But that wouldn't fit the mold of some who just wan't to bash Joe and John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Reading some of the comments on these threads makes me wonder if some people have ever had a job not working for Daddy at the insurance office.
    I've worked for 4 organizations since 1996 - and that is very low for most people I know. But, I have always looked for opportunities or have been approached about changing jobs a dozen times. I've changed jobs for more money, turned down jobs for more money because I didn't want to move, turned down promotions because it meant doing something I didn't want to do, taken promotions without a pay bump to add to my resume, left jobs with no job in hand because I hated my job, I've had bosses try to keep me when I left, and had one tell me not to let the screen door hit me in the ass on the way out. I turned down a major, high profile, high paying, career making job because my kids wanted to finish high school and my wife's business was doing too well to sell after all the work she had put in and have to start over.

    To think that any football coach - head coach, position coach, analyst, or GA - would think any other way is just comedic. Legendary QB comes calling and wants you - you go. Top College program in the country comes calling, you listen. Old friend has a job opening and wants you, you go. Or maybe, you are tired of the moves and thankful for what you have (Shoop) and stay. It's not a sign of the apocalypse. It's not lack of leadership in the AD's office. It's not rats jumping a sinking ship. It's life.
    Well said! This is the most for real down to earth post I've seen in a long time! I left a job for a lower paying job one time because the job was killing the time I was able to spend with my family. I had young ones then and was missing watching them grow up. I have never regretted that decision for one minute! While I may not have millions I have what I need but most importantly I have a great family. Great post Brunswick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Well said! This is the most for real down to earth post I've seen in a long time! I left a job for a lower paying job one time because the job was killing the time I was able to spend with my family. I had young ones then and was missing watching them grow up. I have never regretted that decision for one minute! While I may not have millions I have what I need but most importantly I have a great family. Great post Brunswick.

    I did it twice in my career. Turned out the best thing (both of them) I ever did. I hate that Baker left, but find it comical that folks are lighting up J Cohen because of it.
    "Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson

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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    I did it twice in my career. Turned out the best thing (both of them) I ever did. I hate that Baker left, but find it comical that folks are lighting up J Cohen because of it.
    Good stuff man, I agree completely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Well said! This is the most for real down to earth post I've seen in a long time! I left a job for a lower paying job one time because the job was killing the time I was able to spend with my family. I had young ones then and was missing watching them grow up. I have never regretted that decision for one minute! While I may not have millions I have what I need but most importantly I have a great family. Great post Brunswick.
    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    I did it twice in my career. Turned out the best thing (both of them) I ever did. I hate that Baker left, but find it comical that folks are lighting up J Cohen because of it.
    I'm convinced the Cohen bashing goes back to the Polk/Cohen split from when John was hired as baseball coach. There are some people so "loyal" to Polk that nothing Cohen ever does at MSU will be good.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    I don't think it can be said any better really. This is a sign of a program that is on the rise.. Noone wanted to take Croom from us. Noone wanted his assistants. This is a problem our fanbase isn't used to so they think the sky is falling and we aren't doing enough and are the problem. The only problem is that we have established a winning culture at MSU in Football but we aren't at the top... So some coaches are going to take the chance to move up to someone who is if the chance arrives.

    It just really sucks cause that school on top or near the top, is 90 miles away and in our conference.. and we haven't beaten them in a long time.

    Guys get over it, stop b!tching about someone make a better life for themselves. As long as they handle it correctly, just move on and believe in Joe to make the best coaching hire possible with what we have to offer (a lot...)

    But that wouldn't fit the mold of some who just wan't to bash Joe and John.
    I think the most that we can expect Cohen to do is to at least push for legislation in the SEC that reduces coaches leaving during critical recruiting periods. Regulate that and it would help tremendously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    I think the most that we can expect Cohen to do is to at least push for legislation in the SEC that reduces coaches leaving during critical recruiting periods. Regulate that and it would help tremendously.

    Not really... The NCAA isn't gonna make that rule and tell coaches they can't leave when a opportunity opens.
    Bama lost 7 coaches now and not one I believe to another team in the SEC.

    So you can't make a rule to say Asst Coaches can't leave on their own to a different conference or NFL....

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