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01-25-2019, 01:22 PM
#6461

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Agree. Save room for a couple of grad transfers.
Yeah that's the smart play and there is a busload of those out there!
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01-25-2019, 01:25 PM
#6462
Going to be plenty of room for transfers and one is almost a guarantee and won't be surprised with 2.
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01-25-2019, 01:43 PM
#6463

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Going to be plenty of room for transfers and one is almost a guarantee and won't be surprised with 2.
I don't like the sound of that. We need to sign at least 23. We have plenty of room with guys counting back to next year.
Anyone know how many we sign?
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01-25-2019, 02:01 PM
#6464

Originally Posted by
Dawgology
Dude. I like you. But this is something that Bear Bryant started at Bama. Bryant is one of the main reasons that the original scholarship limit was imposed. Don?t get me wrong, Bear Bryant and Bama were not and are not the only school that does this but it is a very common practice amongst blue blood schools. College is a very unlevel playing field with very little parity. I bring up bama because they are the closest school to MSU and do it to us very VERY often.
You're dead nuts on RE: Bryant signing 100+ guys just to horde them up... That's well documented. Shug did it, Neyland, Vaught, etc....
However, there's no way Saban is going to waste a scholarship for the sole reason of impeding another program. And the truth is, Alabama doesn't even sign many guys from MS anymore unless they are rated really high. And everybody offers those cats.
Heck, y'all get waaaaay more guys out of Bama than the inverse... If Saban truly wanted to disrupt State recruiting, he could just offer all of y'all's commits, especially the AL guys and string em along... I think he's after the Ealy kid because he's really talented, not because MSU wants him... that's incidental, IMO....
If Saban was offering multiple MS 3* kids every year, I'd think there might be something nefarious afoot...
Because this discussion got me curious, I ran the numbers on where Bammer guys come from (2018):
AL 21
FL 11
LA 10
TX 10
CA 5
SC 4
MD 4
MS 4
GA 3
KY 2
HI, IN, IA, MO, NV, OH, OK, PA, TN, UT, AR 1
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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01-25-2019, 02:06 PM
#6465

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
I don't like the sound of that. We need to sign at least 23. We have plenty of room with guys counting back to next year.
Anyone know how many we sign?
We aren’t done with guys leaving= plenty of room
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01-25-2019, 02:13 PM
#6466
If Florida flips khris bogle, how does it affect young?
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01-25-2019, 02:42 PM
#6467

Originally Posted by
msstate7
If Florida flips khris bogle, how does it affect young?
It doesn't
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01-25-2019, 02:46 PM
#6468

Originally Posted by
msstate7
If Florida flips khris bogle, how does it affect young?
None
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01-25-2019, 03:13 PM
#6469

Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
According to his Dad....Yes, he could have gotten him. But at the end of the day, they felt like he was the easiest to turn down, bc he always gave guys an out and acted like he'd support them regardless. I'm Not saying pressuring kids is the "right" way....but if they're having a tough time deciding, giving them an easy out rarely gets the job done. But this is just one instance, the rest of my feeling on T-Buck just comes from the fact that we're always "in it" with good CB's, but rarely even land the top 3 star guys on our board...much less the stud 4 or 5 star
That's a real good point and sounds like some negotiating training would be beneficial. You can still be the nice guy without also being the easy guy to turn down. Every case is different but as you said it's a bit of a pattern for us to get in the door but never close the deal. Like with James even though we really liked him we should have pressed him a little harder on signing early. Maybe we did, but if we didn't we have paid the price.
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01-25-2019, 03:15 PM
#6470

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We aren’t done with guys leaving= plenty of room
Grad transfers count against the 25. Or in our case, the 27. I'm still naively holding the belief that we will sign Young, Ealy and Mingo.
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01-25-2019, 03:43 PM
#6471

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Grad transfers count against the 25. Or in our case, the 27. I'm still naively holding the belief that we will sign Young, Ealy and Mingo.
Makes 2 of us
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01-25-2019, 03:48 PM
#6472

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Grad transfers count against the 25. Or in our case, the 27. I'm still naively holding the belief that we will sign Young, Ealy and Mingo.
Keep Pickering, get 3 CB'd to us today, and 2 of Plumlee, young, mingo, and ealy... I'll be quite happy
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01-25-2019, 03:55 PM
#6473

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Keep Pickering, get 3 CB'd to us today, and 2 of Plumlee, young, mingo, and ealy... I'll be quite happy
I would hope so, lol.
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01-25-2019, 03:58 PM
#6474

Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
I would hope so, lol.
Hell, I'll be ok with 1 of the last 4 I listed
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01-25-2019, 04:15 PM
#6475
It's a little early to get excited about having balls going to a new name CB that hasn't been on campus yet. I think we get Lockhart and Duncan though. Otay is USC bound, Young to Bama or LSU (visit coming), and Ealy to Bama. I think Lawrence still gets a scholly.
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01-25-2019, 04:23 PM
#6476

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
It's a little early to get excited about having balls going to a new name CB that hasn't been on campus yet. I think we get Lockhart and Duncan though. Otay is USC bound, Young to Bama or LSU (visit coming), and Ealy to Bama. I think Lawrence still gets a scholly.
Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark depression, excessive misery.
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01-25-2019, 04:24 PM
#6477

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
It's a little early to get excited about having balls going to a new name CB that hasn't been on campus yet. I think we get Lockhart and Duncan though. Otay is USC bound, Young to Bama or LSU (visit coming), and Ealy to Bama. I think Lawrence still gets a scholly.
Don't give up on Byron yet. I believe we get him.
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01-25-2019, 04:30 PM
#6478

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
It's a little early to get excited about having balls going to a new name CB that hasn't been on campus yet. I think we get Lockhart and Duncan though. Otay is USC bound, Young to Bama or LSU (visit coming), and Ealy to Bama. I think Lawrence still gets a scholly.
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01-25-2019, 04:42 PM
#6479

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Don't give up on Byron yet. I believe we get him.
Nice!
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01-25-2019, 05:00 PM
#6480

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Don't give up on Byron yet. I believe we get him.
Mingo either
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