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					01-23-2019, 02:56 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 I'm not following 
 
 
 Like Ravien Pierce ... a lot of drama and on again/off again stuff.  Probably won't do much in college if I had to guess ... regardless of talent.  Or maybe we just ain't the right fit for him.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:00 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 So we are just going to gift Auburn a 96 rated recruit? 
 
 
 some things are just better left unsaid, at this point. If I said what i knew, it wouldn't help one thing one way or the other. I'll gladly tell it after he signs, whether it's with us or not. And I'd so or not is the likely option.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:30 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 So we are just going to gift Auburn a 96 rated recruit? 
 
 
 Shotgun...I know you are passionate about this one but it?s not gifting him Auburn. There is a reason Tenn pulled the plug on recruiting him.  There are reasons and issues that teams are pulling back on his recruitment. It?s not gifting him to someone else as much as not expending effort with recruiting games and having buyers remorse in the end. Sometimes it?s best to just to expend energy and time on other recruits.  If HE wants us to be serious (after sticking with him for a long time, after injury and poor senior year) he needs to show up on a visit and things need to straighten out. It’s his recruitment and he needs to take better control
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:43 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Homedawg  
 some things are just better left unsaid, at this point. If I said what i knew, it wouldn't help one thing one way or the other. I'll gladly tell it after he signs, whether it's with us or not. And I'd so or not is the likely option. 
 
 
 Sounds like we have heard the same story on this one. Better just pass here.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:45 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Looks like we aren't chasing Charles Moore. 
 
 So we are just going to gift Auburn a 96 rated recruit in our backyard?
 
 I mean, WTF is going on here? How does it ever get to this point?
 
 Is there a 96 rated player near Auburn that we can swap with?
 
 
 
 It?s on Moore.  We did what we could.  Let?s see how it turns out.  I feel like I know where it?s headed with all three of the MS kids.  All three had issues surrounding them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:47 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 It?s on Moore.  We did what we could.  Let?s see how it turns out.  I feel like I know where it?s headed with all three of the MS kids.  All three had issues surrounding them. 
 
 
 What 3?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:50 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msu15  
 He'll also have a better QB to get him the ball 
 
 
 that is speculation--you don't know that for sure--QB might be worse. The ones we have now couldn't beat Fitz out. You think a Freshman is going to come in and be better?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:51 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 It?s on Moore.  We did what we could.  Let?s see how it turns out.  I feel like I know where it?s headed with all three of the MS kids.  All three had issues surrounding them. 
 
 
 All 3 as in Moore, Handy, and Hall?
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					01-23-2019, 03:51 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 What 3? 
 
 
 Handy, Hall, & Moore
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 03:57 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 Handy, Hall, & Moore 
 
 
 Agree they all have issues, but you've still got to take that chance if you are to have even a little bit of hope in competing for the West.
 
 They're risky, but I don't see just as talented replacements
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					01-23-2019, 04:01 PM
				
			
			
				
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							As someone looking in that doesn't have any ties to our recruiting, it's very rare that we have a kid that is committed to us that eventually decommits for a "better" school and is successful. 
 
 Additionally, most anyone that ends up with character issues is a bust. A lot of folks said we needed to stay away from Deon Mix. That one worked out really well for us in the end. And if you happen to notice, Auburn is all about those types of kids. That's not an accident and it's definitely had an impact on their team culture. I know that from a lot of Auburn folks on the inside b
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 04:06 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Agree they all have issues, but you've still got to take that chance if you are to have even a little bit of hope in competing for the West. 
 
 They're risky, but I don't see just as talented replacements
 
 
 
 We did risk it with two of the three.  They chose to play games and go elsewhere.  And if you don’t think Young is better than all three, then I can’t help you.  Hell, Lockhart is better than two of them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 04:12 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 We did risk it with two of the three.  They chose to play games and go elsewhere.  And if you don’t think Young is better than all three, then I can’t help you.  Hell, Lockhart is better than two of them. 
 
 
 Holy hell, where did I say that Young wasn't better?
 
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					01-23-2019, 04:16 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Holy hell, where did I say that Young wasn't better?
 
 At least stay on topic
 
 
 
 Yeah, didn't understand that comment. Cross is better than sharp... still want sharp too though
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 04:21 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Holy hell, where did I say that Young wasn't better?
 
 At least stay on topic
 
 
 
 You said you didn’t see talented replacements.  You’re blind I have to assume.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 04:26 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 You said you didn’t see talented replacements.  You’re blind I have to assume. 
 
 
 Young isn't a replacement. He's "in addition to".
 
 We won't even sign a full 25. Think about it.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					01-23-2019, 04:27 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 All 3 as in Moore, Handy, and Hall? 
 
 
 As I’ve said before, we aren’t missing out on Hall. He is a camp phenom that blew up in the summer, there’s just the little problem that he’s not a football player. He was the absolute softest kid I watched closely all fall. Like a coach at Gulfport said, “ he’s a bright kid, he’s going to make someone a good engineer someday”.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 05:10 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Shotgun you sign too many talented but risky kids and you end with a team like what Jackie had at the end or have to fight some of the issues our basketball team is having.
 
 It’s kids like Dak that drive a team like MSU up a level. You can manage a couple of difficult kids but you have to mindful of the ratio in your locker room.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 05:14 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Irondawg  
 Shotgun you sign too many talented but risky kids and you end with a team like what Jackie had at the end or have to fight some of the issues our basketball team is having.
 
 It’s kids like Dak that drive a team like MSU up a level. You can manage a couple of difficult kids but you have to mindful of the ratio in your locker room.
 
 
 
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					01-23-2019, 05:21 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Young isn't a replacement. He's "in addition to". 
 
 We won't even sign a full 25. Think about it.
 
 
 
 No, we weren’t even in the game with him before signing day.  We lost Moore about the same time.  But you keep splitting hairs so you can bitch.  Give me Young and Lockhart over those three guy.  If Moore decides to come back, then great we add him.  If he doesn’t, we good.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
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