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    What in the holy hell did Scott Stricklin do to some of you?

    I swear I see so much damn vitriol thrown at the man and I don't think he deserves any of it. Most of it seems directed to the Rick Ray hire. For one, NONE of you know a damn thing that went on with that hire. We could have gotten turned down 10 times. And that wouldn't surprise me, since we had just fired what the country considered a successful coach (although we knew it had to be done). Shit, does no one give him credit for finally pulling the plug on Stans? And how do we know Rick Ray sucks? I think his coaching is OK, but just like every other coach, recruiting makes or breaks him. He needs three years at minimum.

    Some of you bitch about the baseball stadium. He's doing EXACTLY what all you wanted....he's examining ALL options to find the best one. He's completely aware of what should be a priority and what shouldn't. How is that bad?

    Some you bitch about scheduling. This is the FIRST year we've played a hard OOC schedule (although we all know that La Tech and others are tough games). That's 1 out of 5, since 2010. And last time I checked, it was GREG BYRNE who scheduling f*cking Southern, not Stricklin.

    Fund raising is at an all time high. Our athletic programs are literally in the best shaped they have EVER been in, as a whole. Oh, and I didn't mention Vick Shaeffer and the women's softball coach, two GREAT hires made by Stricklin. I guess I just don't get it. Some people just love to hate. We have too many ignorant blow-hards in our fanbase who think their opinion should always be heard, no matter how ridiculous.

    Why this thread, you say? The 'Rick Ray hire' thread set me off.
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    Only problem I have with him is that he went to Prop- my HS rival. (since MC was built, the rivalry moved to JA for Prop though)

    I'm giving Ray a chance- but he does need to start recruiting better. Much like the Mullen and Cohen situations, they will eventually play themselves out. Fans jump the gun all too often- this situation may not be any different. The Croom hire being so bad and still fairly fresh has people skittish of no-name assistants that are unproven. Time will tell.
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    1. He had to be walked back from the DNF facelift.

    2. Football gameday atmosphere problems not taken care of

    3. Rick Ray hire

    4. Apologizing for scheduling

    5. Compliance problems. A powerful AD should have the pull to drop an old PE coach, no matter the flow chart.

    Softball and Women's hoops are a blip on the radar. Meaningless when comparing the big 3.

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    Already been said. The Dawgzillatron is a disaster. Instead of hyping the crowd at critical times, we get commercials and corny games. I know we have to pay for the thing, but come on......In general, basically every school in the SEC has a cooler gameday feel than we do.

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    I think overall he has done a great job. There are things he needs to improve like Will Janes says. This is the thing about the internet complainers. They get on here and complain incessantly and don't realize you can freaking talk to Scott. Call his secretary and schedule a call. I'm an under 30 who should be an absolute nobody on his radar. I scheduled a call and we talked for a while about all types of topics and he candidly addresses everything. He will listen to your input and tell you that he appreciates it.

    Without getting into details, there have been issues I've been critical of MSU on. He answered my concerns with more insight than I deserved and it gave me a view of how he's handled some things and I walked away with an appreciation for Strick.

    I'm sure there will be things in the future that I won't agree 100% how MSU handles it. There is nothing wrong with that and it's inevitable. That said, Strick isn't some bumbling fool as some folks have imagined in their brains. I have faith in him to get the job done effectively the vast majority of the time.

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    Complaining about the AD over the 'tron is just silly. Have to pay the bills. Perhaps he should hire some more technical people behind the scenes, but damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Holder View Post
    Complaining about the AD over the 'tron is just silly. Have to pay the bills. Perhaps he should hire some more technical people behind the scenes, but damn.
    Ole Miss's use of their jumbotron crushes us. Their screen isn't an infomercial-for-rent like our's is.

    We have more revenue than OM does, yet they exist without killing the atmosphere for commercials.


    My beef with Strick is 1) Compliance, 2) Compliance, 3) Compliance, 4) Commercials. Call it the 4 C's.

    I don't hold OSU against him. We shit the bed, he didn't. We play like that against a CUSA team and we lose. Maybe y'all should be glad we lost to a top 10 team instead of having a signature loss.
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    On the jumbotron stuff, we were locked into a bunch of contracts. He's heard the feedback. Wait till the opener to say he hasn't done anything. I'd be willing to bet the house it will be 100x better next year

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    I have problems with some of the things stricklan does but the video board debacle should be laid at the feet of Greg Byrne. Byrne said when he paid 6 million dollars for it that it would be paid for through ads. That's what's happening. But too many people don't want to criticize their beloved Gregory. Should have hired Joe Dean jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMan View Post
    On the jumbotron stuff, we were locked into a bunch of contracts. He's heard the feedback. Wait till the opener to say he hasn't done anything. I'd be willing to bet the house it will be 100x better next year

    1) Its gotten a lot worse under Scott's watch.

    2) Scott says no commercials next year except for between quarters.

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    Regarding the baseball stadium- When was the last time anyone complained about that? I haven't said anything about it since the listening sessions, when it became obvious that we were moving in the right direction.

    My biggest problem with that is it took quite a few big boosters pushing him in the right direction for him to get the ball rolling. There are times when it seems like he needs someone to tell him how to do his job. Don't worry though- I will give him credit after everything is built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bully99 View Post
    I have problems with some of the things stricklan does but the video board debacle should be laid at the feet of Greg Byrne. Byrne said when he paid 6 million dollars for it that it would be paid for through ads. That's what's happening. But too many people don't want to criticize their beloved Gregory. Should have hired Joe Dean jr.
    I mean, damn, learn to spell the man's name.

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    Fine, I'll come up with a legitimate gripe. I think we should do away with basketball and give that money to football and baseball. I'll be mad if Scott doesnt do that. **

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    5. Compliance problems. A powerful AD should have the pull to drop an old PE coach, no matter the flow chart.
    The AAU issue in basketball that apparently made it tough to hire a coach and has seemingly limited our recruiting ability in the sport IS the reason that I believe Strick and Keenum are truly backing Bracky and want our football compliance run the archaic way it continues to be run. I'm starting to think basketball is a lost cause if we insist on this naive notion of doing it the "right way". Basketball is the dirtiest of all the sports in recruiting land so if you refuse to play the game at all you are a total non-factor and that is what we've become and will likely stay until some attitudes change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    1. He had to be walked back from the DNF facelift.

    2. Football gameday atmosphere problems not taken care of

    3. Rick Ray hire

    4. Apologizing for scheduling

    5. Compliance problems. A powerful AD should have the pull to drop an old PE coach, no matter the flow chart.

    Softball and Women's hoops are a blip on the radar. Meaningless when comparing the big 3.
    1. He almost screwed that up, but I have to give him credit for not being hard headed and listening and for now going forward and doing the right thing. It takes years to build a stadium, and we are only in the beginning phases. The baseball stadium issue is complicated by the lifetime seating licenses and the LFL. My guess is those two things were big reasons why he wanted to just renovate what we had to start with.

    2. If he pulled the ads, it would have been a financial disaster for us. If I buy an ad for 100K for Todd4State baseball bats to be shown on the jumbotron and then they decide after much complaining about the large amount of ads from fans to pull my ad- MSU is going to owe me some money. And every other business that has ads on the jumbotron. It sucks that we all had to sit through that this year, but I understand why they weren't pulled other than that Hardee's ad with AJ McCarron's girlfriend. If it isn't better next year, then I will complain. I heard Slive wasn't real happy with the AdTron either.

    3. We'll see how the Ray hire plays out. I bet our team improves as the year goes along. Maybe he could have done better there. I'm expecting 15-15 this year and then maybe the NIT next year.

    4. That was a dumb PR move on his part even if it was a mistake and his fault.

    5. Agree totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    2. If he pulled the ads, it would have been a financial disaster for us. If I buy an ad for 100K for Todd4State baseball bats to be shown on the jumbotron and then they decide after much complaining about the large amount of ads from fans to pull my ad- MSU is going to owe me some money. And every other business that has ads on the jumbotron. It sucks that we all had to sit through that this year, but I understand why they weren't pulled other than that Hardee's ad with AJ McCarron's girlfriend. If it isn't better next year, then I will complain. I heard Slive wasn't real happy with the AdTron either.
    Those ads go for $15k per 30 second ad for the entire season... or about $2k-$2500 per ad... According to DS when he inquired about grabbing some ad space for SPS "This music is brought to you commercial-free by SPS"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    Those ads go for $15k per 30 second ad for the entire season... or about $2k-$2500 per ad... According to DS when he inquired about grabbing some ad space for SPS "This music is brought to you commercial-free by SPS"...
    That's really cheap. Or at the very least a lot less than what I would expect an ad to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero View Post
    Regarding the baseball stadium- When was the last time anyone complained about that? I haven't said anything about it since the listening sessions, when it became obvious that we were moving in the right direction.

    My biggest problem with that is it took quite a few big boosters pushing him in the right direction for him to get the ball rolling. There are times when it seems like he needs someone to tell him how to do his job. Don't worry though- I will give him credit after everything is built.
    Exactly. NO ONE is bitching about the stadium now that we know it's going in the right direction and all the correct steps have been taken to assure that happens. Our bitching appears to have been heard loud and clear by the athletics dept on the front end -- and they gave us exactly what we wanted.

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    he told the coaches association to screw off during the middle of a basketball coaching search. That's stupid and it cost us.

    everyone is happy with fundraising, facility improvements, etc... but there are a few areas he needs to improve on. When you make a few big time mistakes as an AD in the SEC it's going to be magnified.

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    Yep, the entire coaching search in basketball made us look amateurish and like we did not know what we were doing. IMO, if he didn't have someone lined up that was a sure thing he shouldn't have fired Stansbury at that moment. If he had let Stansbury stay one more year and fall flat on his face at least it looks better on the outside. Stansbury almost had 300 wins for goodness sakes. The whole situation was handled poorly.

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