Time for solutions

[CadaverDawg]

I've been told I need to lay off Joe, so let's talk solutions. Who gives us the best chance to be successful in 2019?
Keytaon
Shrader
Mayden
Transfer (realistic ones)

And if most say we should win 6-8 games next year, should we discuss winning like 7-8 games with a 1 year transfer or KT vs winning 5-6 with a freshman and build towards the future of this scheme?

I'd love to hear people's thoughts. Personally I'd like to see KT get a shot, but I get the feeling that Joe doesn't see him as the answer, so what if our choice is a 1 year transfer or Shrader? Just throwing out a solutions discussing topic, so I'm being more of "a solution instead of part of the problem" (right JT?)

Thoughts? How do we make the O successful, and do we look for a quick fix or think big picture?

[chef dixon]

I would like to see KT get the nod too, but Joe can not be afraid to try other guys if he sucks

[bulldawg28]

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[msstate7]

I want an open QB competition between key, mayden, and shrader. I don't really see the need to go get a transfer bc I think we're a 6-7 win team regardless unless we land a true difference maker which I don't see happening

[bulldawg28]

KT or Mayden.

KT has all the tools and should be ready to play at a high level.

Mayden throws a pretty/ catchable ball and ran a similar RPO system in high school.

Whomever is selected they'll need time to gel without worrying about the man behind them unless they're stinking it up.

[Bothrops]

Unless Mayden has gotten worse since HS, you'd have to think the most polished passer steps forward.

[KOdawg1]

I think people automatically assume KT will be the guy, but Mayden will have a say in that. I think Mayden is the guy more equipped to run the offense right now. He's a pretty good thrower and can be mobile if he has to be.

I think Shrader is the QB of the future but he needs a year to bulk up and learn this system.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Unless our receivers get better, it would’t matter if we have Pat Mahomes at QB....that being said...
15-20 touches (run/pass) to Kylin Hill
10-15 touches to back-up RB’s
5 passes to TE’s per game
15 passes to WR per game

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Unless our receivers get better, it would’t matter if we have Pat Mahomes at QB....that being said...
15-20 touches (run/pass) to Kylin Hill
10-15 touches to back-up RB’s
5 passes to TE’s per game
15 passes to WR per game

Our WRs dropped WAY to many balls, don't think I'm trying to defend them, BUT... they got open a lot this year. Like genuine separation open. Fitz was the problem- he predetermined who he was going to and every now than then looked at the #2. Sometimes he didn't' even look a the #1- see the flea flicker vs Bama. Left a lot of yards on the field because his brain would freeze up, but the WRs did fine getting open. Problem was that when we did see them they dropped it a lot, but even with that taken into consideration Fitz left about 100 yards a game on the table

[chef dixon]

Not sure where the Mayden confidence is coming from. I?m not sure he threw 3 passes this year and all I can recall is fumbling snaps etc. If we are going to knock KT for his limited time on the field (which has not been terrible) then not sure we can know anything about Mayden.

[Pit Bull]

We'll know a lot more after spring practice and the Spring game. I would have to say as it is now......KT, Mayden, and Shrader would be my top 3 in that order.....but it could change. None of us really know how these 3 will pan out. Should be good competition at that position regardless.

[Liverpooldawg]

I've been told I need to lay off Joe, so let's talk solutions. Who gives us the best chance to be successful in 2019?
Keytaon
Shrader
Mayden
Transfer (realistic ones)

And if most say we should win 6-8 games next year, should we discuss winning like 7-8 games with a 1 year transfer or KT vs winning 5-6 with a freshman and build towards the future of this scheme?

I'd love to hear people's thoughts. Personally I'd like to see KT get a shot, but I get the feeling that Joe doesn't see him as the answer, so what if our choice is a 1 year transfer or Shrader? Just throwing out a solutions discussing topic, so I'm being more of "a solution instead of part of the problem" (right JT?)

Thoughts? How do we make the O successful, and do we look for a quick fix or think big picture?

I haven't seen enough of any of them yet to even have an opinion. I'll wait till I do.

[Jack Lambert]

I want the best guy period. If the best guy is a freshman and we only win six ole well. Things will only be better the next season.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I never thought I'd say this, but what I am hearing is that it will be Shrader and that Moorhead has little to no confidence in KT. (Big sign that he put him in at WR in the bowl)

We feel ok about Shrader but he wont be where he needs to be to win 8. We are def in the transfer market. TIFWIW to you

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I never thought I'd say this, but what I am hearing is that it will be Shrader and that Moorhead has little to no confidence in KT. (Big sign that he put him in at WR in the bowl)

We feel ok about Shrader but he wont be where he needs to be to win 8. We are def in the transfer market. TIFWIW to you

Holy hell, thanks for the info Bucky.

[timotheus]

I feel we are heading in that direction folks.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Holy hell, thanks for the info Bucky.

Me personally I want it to be KT bc he has earned it and has played well at times, but it doesnt make a damn what I want.

[bluelightstar]

I never thought I'd say this, but what I am hearing is that it will be Shrader and that Moorhead has little to no confidence in KT. (Big sign that he put him in at WR in the bowl)

We feel ok about Shrader but he wont be where he needs to be to win 8. We are def in the transfer market. TIFWIW to you

Moorhead is going to lose this fanbase and his job

[cheewgumm]

The running backs won?t get the ball that much. Ideally you?d give it to the talent ( Hill ). But, he?ll probably get 10 or less carries a game.

[Dawg61]

Why do we have to lay off Joe? He's getting paid $3+ mill. He can handle it and if he can't he can walk. Learn how to adapt an offense to the 4* QB Keytaon. Make him and our offense successful. Keytaon is plenty talented enough. If Joe can't do that I don't want him coaching us and I'll go as far as to say if he starts Schraeder at any point barring an injury to both Key or Mayden next year I want Joe gone at the end of the 2019 season. I will know all I need to know by that point.