2019 Recruiting Thread

[Cooterpoot]

Cunningham - 100%
Payton - 50%
Walker - 100%
Washington - 60%
James - 60%
Emerson - 25%
Pickering - 100%
Duncan - 50%
Plumlee - 60%
Lawrence - 25%
Young - 25%
Moore - 60%
TJ Jones - 25%
Mingo - 50%

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Moore has people in his ear. He?s not smart enough to realize they?re using him.

Local people or in Florida?

From his actions, he seems like Quay Evans 2.0 and not worth the trouble, but I guess we're in no position to pick and choose the baggage we get with a talented player.

[Scared_Hitless]

Cunningham - 100%
Payton - 50%
Walker - 100%
Washington - 60%
James - 60%
Emerson - 25%
Pickering - 100%
Duncan - 50%
Plumlee - 60%
Lawrence - 25%
Young - 25%
Moore - 60%
TJ Jones - 25%
Mingo - 50%

If we pull these guys above 50% not sure we could complain. But man that feels like the impossible currently.

[Cooterpoot]

Local people or in Florida?

From his actions, he seems like Quay Evans 2.0 and not worth the trouble, but I guess we're in no position to pick and choose the baggage we get with a talented player.

Both to an extent and FL isn't the only school. He's not Quay Evans, not even close.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Cunningham - 100%
Payton - 50%
Walker - 100%
Washington - 60%
James - 60%
Emerson - 25%
Pickering - 100%
Duncan - 50%
Plumlee - 60%
Lawrence - 25%
Young - 25%
Moore - 60%
TJ Jones - 25%
Mingo - 50%

I agree with all these numbers too

[Cooterpoot]

The only player we've got committed I think we definitely lose is Emerson. He's all over Miami and that's just a matter of time. We're already bringing in Duncan for a visit to cover that spot. We'll know more about Mingo and Plumlee in a couple weeks after they visit but Plumlee is headed in positive direction. Mingo is a guess but he's definitely looking hard for a better situation. I can't see Young happening.
Washington is just waiting on FSU and they'd have to miss on some people for him to get that offer. James would be HUGE and things look better there for now. AU can't miss on guys though.

[msstate7]

If we pull these guys above 50% not sure we could complain. But man that feels like the impossible currently.

I agree

[MetEdDawg]

The only player we've got committed I think we definitely lose is Emerson. He's all over Miami and that's just a matter of time. We're already bringing in Duncan for a visit to cover that spot. We'll know more about Mingo and Plumlee in a couple weeks after they visit but Plumlee is headed in positive direction. Mingo is a guess but he's definitely looking hard for a better situation. I can't see Young happening.
Washington is just waiting on FSU and they'd have to miss on some people for him to get that offer. James would be HUGE and things look better there for now. AU can't miss on guys though.

Auburn has a safety, two corners, and two athletes that could play signed already. Bama has 2 safeties signed and 3 CBs signed with another CB committed. I don't think James is gonna get a Bama offer, but the Auburn offer will be tough as well. But like you said, Auburn could miss.

Pickering, Plumlee, James, Cunningham, Walker, Duncan would be nice. Add in one or two of the others on that list and I would be extremely happy. That's a top 20 finish in recruiting for sure.

[CadaverDawg]

If we pull these guys above 50% not sure we could complain. But man that feels like the impossible currently.

Yep

[Johnson85]

Like I said, some fans won?t ever accept Moorhead. Other than FL and IA, I don?t see wins regardless of the coach. But our fans are treating him just like they did Croom. And part of that is on our AD for grabbing up a guy nobody knew, from up north, and basically no HC experience. I get it. I don?t agree with it, but I get it.

Now this is just bullshit.

First, our AD hired a premier coordinator from a successful Power5 team. Before the people most fans were convinced he would be a great coach despite all the past experience with otherwise successful coordinators just not cutting it as head coaches.

But there's just no other way to describe the UK and FLorida games other than atrocious. How many coaches watch our tackles get blown up like that at UK for three quarters before they try to adjust? Moorhead just froze up and shit the bed. It happens and it's not the end of the world, but you can't claim the fans weren't going to accept him regardless. And then he didn't do much better in the florida game.

If our offense had shown up for the bowl game, the bandwagon would still be full. It'd be easy to say yea, there were some growing pains and he didn't have the right pieces for his offense, but after a season in the offense, players were getting it and we'll be fine going forward. But with a full seasona nd bowl practices, he couldn't figure out a way to put together a decent offense with the leading QB rusher in SEC history.

People are understandably concerned by that. Some people are freaking out, which is probably overboard. It looks like Moorhead has a system and he's going to have to recruit players to it because he can't adjust it to match a running QB that's a weak passer. "Has to have players that fit his system and has limited ability to adjust his system to players" probably describes most of the offensive guys with an identifiable system, so that doesn't mean Moorhead won't be good going forward.

My big concern now is that it might be hard to get qbs that fit Moorhead. The pirate can take any undersized player with good accuracy and good decision making and blow up the weaker defense conferences. He can pretty much go grab a grad transfer that meets that description every other year. Moorhead needs a guy that can make decisions, throw an accurate deep ball, and run enough to keep defenses honest, and also has to be big enough to take the punishment of the SEC. That's not a guy you can find on any street corner.

[Cooterpoot]

Auburn has a safety, two corners, and two athletes that could play signed already. Bama has 2 safeties signed and 3 CBs signed with another CB committed. I don't think he's gonna get a Bama offer, but the Auburn offer will be tough as well.

I think he's probably one of their "best available" slots though. That's the concern. I don't think he'll take a grey shirt offer based on what he's said in the past. He plays day one at State.

[Commercecomet24]

Cunningham - 100%
Payton - 50%
Walker - 100%
Washington - 60%
James - 60%
Emerson - 25%
Pickering - 100%
Duncan - 50%
Plumlee - 60%
Lawrence - 25%
Young - 25%
Moore - 60%
TJ Jones - 25%
Mingo - 50%

Cooter's numbers are pretty accurate, I would go a little higher on Plumlee, though.

[Cooterpoot]

My big concern now is that it might be hard to get qbs that fit Moorhead. The pirate can take any undersized player with good accuracy and good decision making and blow up the weaker defense conferences. He can pretty much go grab a grad transfer that meets that description every other year. Moorhead needs a guy that can make decisions, throw an accurate deep ball, and run enough to keep defenses honest, and also has to be big enough to take the punishment of the SEC. That's not a guy you can find on any street corner.

1. He's signed his QB.
2. We blew up weaker defenses with freaking Fitz at QB. How is that different than what we did?
3. He went and got a transfer just like we tried to do and a lot of our fans lost their shit over it.
4. Mike Leach had 3 straight losing seasons at WSU to start there. He had to get his players.

[MetEdDawg]

I think he's probably one of their "best available" slots though. That's the concern. I don't think he'll take a grey shirt offer based on what he's said in the past. He plays day one at State.

He's visiting both Iowa and Oregon. Do either of those pose a serious threat? Would he really leave Spanish Fort for Oregon? They only have one CB committed

[Cooterpoot]

I don't know if he would go to those places, but the average recruit isn't going more than 5 hours or 500 miles. I don't see it. I think he's taking trips.

[Scared_Hitless]

If I am a recruit and Oregon offers me an OV, I am taking it. Hopefully that is what he is doing. We need James he is a stud.

Is Payton still a take with this class? I honestly dont care he wont make the spring with our WR core we should take anyone willing to come.

[Johnson85]

Morris would not touch Nick Fitzgerald with a 10-foot pole. Shurmur is light years better at QB than Fitz, and I'd take Franks over Fitz too. Maybe Fitz is better than Guarantano, but he turns the ball over way too much to be the answer at Kentucky. He'd mess up UK's formula of run the ball and play defense. In fact, I think advanced stats have Fitz as the worst QB in the conference this year.

Fitz was just lost in Moorhead's system. He's a very good player that has some significant limits b/c of his passing, but he's still much better than his stats showed this year. Not sure how many places he would have been a clear starter because the system needs to fit him.

But after Fitz, Aeris and Williams would start or play significant minutes for a lot of SEC teams. I'm not sure anybody on the OL other than Jenkins would start a lot of places, but I think Calhoun and Williams could start at several places and even our OT, while not strong, were not bad to have as a weak link. Don't pay attention enough to other teams to be sure, but I suspect they are no worse than several starters across the SEC.

The real major deficiency (besdies having a QB that doesn't fit the scheme), is wide receiver. I'm not sure who on our team even gets playing time elsewhere. Guidry could probably get on the field based on his measurables? I don't think Mitchell or Austin Williams even make it on the field. I'm not sure if anybody else was as weak as us at WR, but I'm guessing we don't have anybody that would be a top 3 receiver for the best half of units? And nobody that would be the second best receiver on any of the 8th through 11th units?

[Turfdawg67]

Aeris, Kylin, Guidry, Jenkins, Williams, Fitz to name a few. Counter that with the #1 D in the country, 8-5 was an unacceptable failure.

Yes we get it. Go back in hiding, come out for baseball.

[MetEdDawg]

Fitz was just lost in Moorhead's system. He's a very good player that has some significant limits b/c of his passing, but he's still much better than his stats showed this year. Not sure how many places he would have been a clear starter because the system needs to fit him.

But after Fitz, Aeris and Williams would start or play significant minutes for a lot of SEC teams. I'm not sure anybody on the OL other than Jenkins would start a lot of places, but I think Calhoun and Williams could start at several places and even our OT, while not strong, were not bad to have as a weak link. Don't pay attention enough to other teams to be sure, but I suspect they are no worse than several starters across the SEC.

The real major deficiency (besdies having a QB that doesn't fit the scheme), is wide receiver. I'm not sure who on our team even gets playing time elsewhere. Guidry could probably get on the field based on his measurables? I don't think Mitchell or Austin Williams even make it on the field. I'm not sure if anybody else was as weak as us at WR, but I'm guessing we don't have anybody that would be a top 3 receiver for the best half of units? And nobody that would be the second best receiver on any of the 8th through 11th units?

Here's my measuring stick for our WR's. Find a good or above average team that our WR's would start for or get decent minutes for. Alabama, Auburn, and TAMU are definite no. LSU probably a no. So the teams we aspire to beat and challenge wouldn't have a single one of our guys start or get decent reps for them. That's why I think so much of what we have failed to do in recruiting under Mullen has hampered the effectiveness of this offense this year. Fitz didn't help, but we've had WR problems for years. It's not a Moorhead thing.

[Turfdawg67]

Oh my...you really have no clue. You think Guidry and Fitz would start at other SEC schools?? That is the funniest thing on here in awhile.

He's so bitter right now, he's grasping for straws. LOL