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Thread: Now That it is Over, What is Nick Fitzgerald's Legacy At MSU?

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    Agreed but you have to remember he missed the bowl game last year and didn't start

    the first game of this year either. We can slice it any way we want too but NF is one of the best QB's in this programs history. How many other MSU QB's, or MSU players for that matter, have a career SEC record for something, anything?
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    I'll remember Nick as a player who when he stepped between those lines he was gonna give you everything he had. He definitely had his deficiencies in his decision making and accuracy, but I never doubted that the kid wasn't giving everything he had for us. His toughness and game breaking speed is what I'll remember the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So you think the jags should take fitz at #4 over Haskins?
    7 we are talking College. Tebow and Johnny Football are maybe the two best colleges QBs ever. But they ain't shit in the NFL . You put Nick on OSU and the other dude on MSU and who does better?? MSU might win but it will because of the defense. Who was in top 2 total offens their Sophomore year when he actually had SEC WRs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    7 we are talking College. Tebow and Johnny Football are maybe the two best colleges QBs ever. But they ain't shit in the NFL . You put Nick on OSU and the other dude on MSU and who does better?? MSU might win but it will because of the defense. Who was in top 2 total offens their Sophomore year when he actually had SEC WRs?
    We'll just disagree. I love nick and think he gets way too much criticism, but nick ain't Haskins. Haskins is one hell of a qb. Watch him and you'll see the accuracy and arm strength.

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    Is there any real difference between Fitz and Relf...other than expectations being lower for Relf?

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    IMO, don't think he has one. Just another QB who was a good runner and couldn't pass. Bout like John Bond. I would rate Bond ahead of him for managing to beat an undefeated #1 ranked BAMA team in 1980. Of course, Fitz probably would have been awesome running the wishbone at one of the service academies.

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    Given his 'not so hot' passing ability, will Fitz still be known as a dual-threat quarterback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull View Post
    IMO, don't think he has one. Just another QB who was a good runner and couldn't pass. Bout like John Bond. I would rate Bond ahead of him for managing to beat an undefeated #1 ranked BAMA team in 1980. Of course, Fitz probably would have been awesome running the wishbone at one of the service academies.
    You think he was capable of handling the academic requirements at a service academy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    You think he was capable of handling the academic requirements at a service academy?
    Probably not....but I am not aware of his academic progress at MSU so I really don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    You think he was capable of handling the academic requirements at a service academy?
    Most option QBs are small. Scott Frost was an exception, and he was fun to watch. I really wish someone would bust the old Nebraska offense out the closet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    You think he was capable of handling the academic requirements at a service academy?
    He graduated in Finance and was in a Masters program this year. I think he could have handled the academic requirements. He seems a little wild for what they expect cadets to act like though. No judgement but they are very regimented and that doesn't seem like Nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    He graduated in Finance and was in a Masters program this year. I think he could have handled the academic requirements. He seems a little wild for what they expect cadets to act like though. No judgement but they are very regimented and that doesn't seem like Nick.
    I suppose those reasons are why I was wondering, and his apparent slow decision making (might've been ball hogging too) at times. Maybe he just didn't prepare enough. Could've been burned out a little too, not to mention the terrible injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull View Post
    Probably not....but I am not aware of his academic progress at MSU so I really don't know.
    I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about Nick's academics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Most option QBs are small. Scott Frost was an exception, and he was fun to watch. I really wish someone would bust the old Nebraska offense out the closet.
    Nick would have been an absolute beast in a service academy offense. They just don't find QB's with his skill set with their talent pool unless they are related to Norman Schwartzkoff

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    Service academies would have FIXED Nick's wildness or he wouldn't cut it there. They got ways to do it that won't get published anywhere. The only reason the Naval Academy put up with John McCain's antics was because his father and grandfather were bigshot Admirals.
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    Nick's legacy will not be finalized for a few years and the anger blows over for his shortcomings this season. (Not his fault his Coach left him at the Altar)

    It should show he was one of the toughest SOB's to ever wear the uniform. A guy that put his body on the line week in and week out for this university. A player that followed a legend and became one in his own right. A guy that was carted off the field his Junior year only to return and fight his guts out his senior year for a new coach. Nick will be beloved when we look back, he had limitations, but he was damn fun to watch and gave it everything he had. Big wins, toughness and a human highlight reel. He will be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We'll just disagree. I love nick and think he gets way too much criticism, but nick ain't Haskins. Haskins is one hell of a qb. Watch him and you'll see the accuracy and arm strength.
    Haskins is also the first QB taken by most NFL draft guys and Nick will be lucky to get a FA deal unless he goes as a Hell on Wheels TE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless View Post
    Nick's legacy will not be finalized for a few years and the anger blows over for his shortcomings this season. (Not his fault his Coach left him at the Altar)

    It should show he was one of the toughest SOB's to ever wear the uniform. A guy that put his body on the line week in and week out for this university. A player that followed a legend and became one in his own right. A guy that was carted off the field his Junior year only to return and fight his guts out his senior year for a new coach. Nick will be beloved when we look back, he had limitations, but he was damn fun to watch and gave it everything he had. Big wins, toughness and a human highlight reel. He will be missed.
    Similar to Relf, he definitely had deficiencies in the pass game but you never doubted his heart and toughness. Also like Relf, he ran all over and through UM in the Egg Bowl. Definitely a great Bulldog and will be remembered fondly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    Is there any real difference between Fitz and Relf...other than expectations being lower for Relf?
    Fitz is much better. More dynamic runner, and while Fitz probably isn't more accurate than Relf at his best, Fitz can make more throws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    Fitz is much better. More dynamic runner, and while Fitz probably isn't more accurate than Relf at his best, Fitz can make more throws.
    Go look at the 9-4 season for Relf and Last season for Fitz. The stats are virtually identical. Nick was a better athlete like you said.

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