Why aren't we going to win 8 games again next year?

[msstate7]

I swear we have the most schizophrenic fan base on the planet.

3 years bitching about how horrible Fitz is, then spending all this season calling for his replacement and playing KT, but now our offense will be worse with a QB many claim is better, throws a better ball and is faster.

Isn't that kinda what you've done? You spent the last 2 years telling us how good fitz is and now he isn't

[Homedawg]

I saw oue second team defense stop Iowa Sunday in person. They could not run on them either. There is a reason why the starters are the starters but the second team will be better next season they will be bigger, stronger and more experience. We will win 8 ball games.

You saw one defensive tackle play that will play next year. Autry. He will go from 12-15 snaps to being either a starter or the third tackle. The other two tackles that we know we will play have never taken a snap. After that we have NO tackles. We had unreal depth at every spot on the line. We lose a ton in the dl. I'll let you bet whatever you want we don't win 8 reg season games. And I'd love to be wrong. Love to. But I watched that's shit show offense all year. Just ain't happening not w what we lose on defense. And oh. Abram is a stud. He butchered a play the other day but that didn't happen often.

[Coursesuper]

You saw one defensive tackle play that will play next year. Autry. He will go from 12-15 snaps to being either a starter or the third tackle. The other two tackles that we know we will play have never taken a snap. After that we have NO tackles. We had unreal depth at every spot on the line. We lose a ton in the dl. I'll let you bet whatever you want we don't win 8 reg season games. And I'd love to be wrong. Love to. But I watched that's shit show offense all year. Just ain't happening not w what we lose on defense. And oh. Abram is a stud. He butchered a play the other day but that didn't happen often.

This dead on right.

[BrunswickDawg]

Isn't that kinda what you've done? You spent the last 2 years telling us how good fitz is and now he isn't

Touche. I've recognized that he is a player with a limited skill set - because he has proven it, but I haven't stoped defending him when people just bash for the sake of bashing him. Recognizing limits is different then bashing someone repeatedly for baseless opinions and rumors like a lot were. Everything from him being gay (not that there is anything wrong with that) to a coke head to the team hating him. It's also different from calling out every single in game mistake as his fault. There is even a thread on here right now claiming (based on Hadads opinion) that Fitz wasn't throwing to Guidry in the end zone so the drop wasnt his fault. There has been a ton of that BS over the past 3 years. Way more than any single player I can remember - a least in the history of this board. They even showed a quote from Andrew Briener during the game yesterday talking about how Fitz was the most criticized player he'd ever seen.
It's so bad sometimes, you would never know he's won more starts than all but 3 MSU QBs.

Hell, you would think he had committed some unforgivable sin - like bunting.***

[DownwardDawg]

We will win 8.

[msstate7]

Touche. I've recognized that he is a player with a limited skill set - because he has proven it, but I haven't stoped defending him when people just bash for the sake of bashing him. Recognizing limits is different then bashing someone repeatedly for baseless opinions and rumors like a lot were. Everything from him being gay (not that there is anything wrong with that) to a coke head to the team hating him. It's also different from calling out every single in game mistake as his fault. There is even a thread on here right now claiming (based on Hadads opinion) that Fitz wasn't throwing to Guidry in the end zone so the drop wasnt his fault. There has been a ton of that BS over the past 3 years. Way more than any single player I can remember - a least in the history of this board. They even showed a quote from Andrew Briener during the game yesterday talking about how Fitz was the most criticized player he'd ever seen.
It's so bad sometimes, you would never know he's won more starts than all but 3 MSU QBs.

Hell, you would think he had committed some unforgivable sin - like bunting.***

Fitz certainly gets more criticism than he deserves. I have thoroughly enjoyed watching him the last 3 years, and I'll miss him even if he wasn't a good fit in this offense. It isn't fitz's fault he followed dak or that dan left him... those 2 things have tainted fitz's legacy, and it's sad imo

[BrunswickDawg]

Fitz certainly gets more criticism than he deserves. I have thoroughly enjoyed watching him the last 3 years, and I'll miss him even if he wasn't a good fit in this offense. It isn't fitz's fault he followed dak or that dan left him... those 2 things have tainted fitz's legacy, and it's sad imo

I agree completely.

[Homedawg]

We will win 8.

How much are we betting. I love a good bet ....

[mparkerfd20]

Bama, LSU, Auburn, Texas A&M, and TN/KY that's why. We will lose to the first 4 for sure and 1 of TN or KY.

[Hambone]

How comical will it be IF we have a better overall record next year because, oh, I don’t know, Moorhead figures more things out? His recruiting class has the chance to be one of the more higher rated classes we’ve had. 2020 will probably be a better indicator of that, however.

[confucius say]

How much are we betting. I love a good bet ....

Ive already offered you (or whomever accepts first) a $100 bet with terms of us winning 8 by end of day 1-2-20 absent starting qb injury. You must want 8 regular season only?

[msstate7]

Ive already offered you (or whomever accepts first) a $100 bet with terms of us winning 8 by end of day 1-2-20 absent starting qb injury. You must want 8 regular season only?

You offering the same safety net of QB injury in the bet? Do we have to face and beat 8 teams with a healthy starting QB?

[ShotgunDawg]

I swear we have the most schizophrenic fan base on the planet.

3 years bitching about how horrible Fitz is, then spending all this season calling for his replacement and playing KT, but now our offense will be worse with a QB many claim is better, throws a better ball and is faster.

I'd be shocked if the QB next year is worse than what Fitz gave us this year. The biggest thing is if the next QB will be as tough & durable as Nick. My feeling is if that guy starts every game & avoids injury, he won't be any worse.

I mean, what skill did Fitz show this year that is tough to replace?

[confucius say]

You offering the same safety net of QB injury in the bet? Do we have to face and beat 8 teams with a healthy starting QB?

Yes.
No.

[msstate7]

I'd be shocked if the QB next year is worse than what Fitz gave us this year. The biggest thing is if the next QB will be as tough & durable as Nick. My feeling is if that guy starts every game & avoids injury, he won't be any worse.

I mean, what skill did Fitz show this year that is tough to replace?

Why wasn't he replaced this year then?

[dawgman15]

Why wasn't he replaced this year then?

That is a great question, outside of Stephen F. Austin, Keayton was never really given a fair chance to showcase his abilities. IMO he should have redshirted this year with the very limited reps he was given and the short amount of passing plays.

[Quaoarsking]

Bama, LSU, Auburn, Texas A&M, and TN/KY that's why. We will lose to the first 4 for sure and 1 of TN or KY.

That's just a baseless assertion that you didn't even try to back up.

[fader2103]

I bet we win every game next year, barring any thing that doesn't give us an advantage*

[Scared_Hitless]

So DT wise is it going to be up to Fabian and Autry? I assumed Kobe was running at DT but appears he is listed at DE. Little more concerned, but they have to have a plan since they havent offered any Juco stopgap players.

[dawgday166]

Bama, LSU, Auburn, Texas A&M, and TN/KY that's why. We will lose to the first 4 for sure and 1 of TN or KY.

That's just a baseless assertion that you didn't even try to back up.

So the guy has an opinion about next year, which every single one of these posts are, and he has to back it up with facts? What facts are you or anyone else gonna provide to show we'll win 8? I kinda think he's probably right unless our QB situation turns out better than expected. I kinda think TN at TN will be tougher than everyone here thinks. And we play AU & TAM at their place.

IF our QB situation turns out pretty good AND we get tougher on offense (cause we ain't consistently tough on O), I could see us maybe beating LSU at home. Gus is always good when no one expects him to be, so I think AU will be pretty decent next year. Mond is coming back and I think beating Jimbo at TAM will be tough order. I think the Pruitt is gonna do better than most on here think, maybe not like Kirby but everyone on here thinks Pruitt's a dummy.

Most posters on here had KY, FL, & LSU (all of them) as sure wins in preseason last year.