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In full disclosure I have a degree from Liberty and have multiple good friends there. While I would be disappointed, it doesn't change the fact that Liberty has some outstanding students and faculty. Some of the best people in the world I know have graduated from Liberty and I don't say that lightly. All students have to do 20 hours of mandatory community service every semester and they get to hear amazing speakers every week at convocation. Last time I was on campus (last year) John McEnroe spoke at convocation (they don't just bring in Christians to speak, they bring in people from all walks of life). They even set up a tennis court and he picked students from the crowd to hit balls with. My daughter was immediately drawn to the school when I took her last year and she desperately wants to go there for nursing school (but I'm trying to talk her to medical school there instead). The campus is beautiful, everything is first class. They also have a huge endowment for a school that's 40 years old - bigger than Georgia and a lot of other major universities. In fact, their stadium is named after a Mississippi State alum. Probably the wealthiest alumni we've ever produced (Arthur Williams). Anyway, I'd be upset for sure, but it's still a school I'd be thrilled if my kids attended.
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Isn't Liberty a Christian university? Are they going to invite Planned Parenthood to speak about sanctity of life? There are skeletons in Freeze's closet that I know to be fact, but would never put on this board. And that is to protect the victim, not Freeze. I believe in forgiveness. I honestly do. But Freeze needs to apologize and show some remorse in my opinion.
Let me make this clear: FREEZE IS NOT THE VICTIM!
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
You two are destined for a great friendship.**
Ha ha. I've been in politics for 6 years. Trust me - I've learned to deal with all kinds of people. I can get along with just about anyone.
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Lol @ freezus and shitbird . Branding going worse for shitbird.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
Isn't Liberty a Christian university? Are they going to invite Planned Parenthood to speak about sanctity of life? There are skeletons in Freeze's closet that I know to be fact, but would never put on this board. And that is to protect the victim, not Freeze. I believe in forgiveness. I honestly do. But Freeze needs to apologize and show some remorse in my opinion.
Let me make this clear: FREEZE IS NOT THE VICTIM!
I'm 100% in agreement there. That's what upsets me...he hasn't apologized and owned up to it. Just man up and say "I wanted to win big and I screwed up bad trying to do it."
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
Isn't Liberty a Christian university? Are they going to invite Planned Parenthood to speak about sanctity of life? There are skeletons in Freeze's closet that I know to be fact, but would never put on this board. And that is to protect the victim, not Freeze. I believe in forgiveness. I honestly do. But Freeze needs to apologize and show some remorse in my opinion.
Let me make this clear: FREEZE IS NOT THE VICTIM!
Briarcrest stories live forever
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
I'm 100% in agreement there. That's what upsets me...he hasn't apologized and owned up to it. Just man up and say "I wanted to win big and I screwed up bad trying to do it."
I don't give a crap if he apologies to me, you, or to the public. That's not my issue. But he should apologize to the victims. He knows who they are. A phone call, a visit, a hand written note. But he wants to act like HE'S the victim.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
Isn't Liberty a Christian university? Are they going to invite Planned Parenthood to speak about sanctity of life? There are skeletons in Freeze's closet that I know to be fact, but would never put on this board. And that is to protect the victim, not Freeze. I believe in forgiveness. I honestly do. But Freeze needs to apologize and show some remorse in my opinion.
Let me make this clear: FREEZE IS NOT THE VICTIM!
You know sometimes we all have to look for forgiveness.
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Why would you call it a trash University?
Well Jerry Falwell is enough to make it a trash school......but hiring the Bayor AD and interviewing freeze reinforces it.
I am sure there are plenty of fine students and employees there, but Falwell is a piece of crap and the Athletic department is now headed by a piece of crap.
Just them hiring the Baylor guy tells you what kind of people are in power there
Last edited by deadheaddawg; 12-03-2018 at 08:33 PM.
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
You know sometimes we all have to look for forgiveness.
I don't need forgiveness. I did nothing wrong. I'm the victim here.
Sincerely,
Hugh Freeze
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
But, don't you think there is a high proportion of good Christian kids in their student body? Don't you think it's unfair to label those kids as trash?
What's the website if you have proof that these kids are trash? We shouldn't slander these young kids.
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Originally Posted by
Lance Harbor
The joyous hypocrisy and double standards of Jerry Falwell and his ilk.
Which is why Hugh Freeze is sooooooooooo perfect for them as their head coach.
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
In full disclosure I have a degree from Liberty and have multiple good friends there. While I would be disappointed, it doesn't change the fact that Liberty has some outstanding students and faculty. Some of the best people in the world I know have graduated from Liberty and I don't say that lightly. All students have to do 20 hours of mandatory community service every semester and they get to hear amazing speakers every week at convocation. Last time I was on campus (last year) John McEnroe spoke at convocation (they don't just bring in Christians to speak, they bring in people from all walks of life). They even set up a tennis court and he picked students from the crowd to hit balls with. My daughter was immediately drawn to the school when I took her last year and she desperately wants to go there for nursing school (but I'm trying to talk her to medical school there instead). The campus is beautiful, everything is first class. They also have a huge endowment for a school that's 40 years old - bigger than Georgia and a lot of other major universities. In fact, their stadium is named after a Mississippi State alum. Probably the wealthiest alumni we've ever produced (Arthur Williams). Anyway, I'd be upset for sure, but it's still a school I'd be thrilled if my kids attended.
100% agree. I never went to Liberty but I know people in my church that have and/or taught there or are very connected there. It's a very good school and I would have considered going there but they don't have any post grad degrees that really fit my career. I don't judge colleges on the football coach because there are probably people with questionable pasts at every school in the country in some way shape or form.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
Isn't Liberty a Christian university? Are they going to invite Planned Parenthood to speak about sanctity of life? There are skeletons in Freeze's closet that I know to be fact, but would never put on this board. And that is to protect the victim, not Freeze. I believe in forgiveness. I honestly do. But Freeze needs to apologize and show some remorse in my opinion.
Let me make this clear: FREEZE IS NOT THE VICTIM!
You are 100% correct.
And as a Christian the biggest thing I hated about Freeze's show for a lack of better words was how he made it sound like good things happened to him and Ole Miss because he was more Christian than his opponents and therefore God found "favor" towards them- whether it be landing a 4-5 star recruit or beating Alabama. That's not Biblical. And it's more hollow when you know HOW they got those players which led to those wins- and it had nothing to do with Haiti Mission Trips or going to church every Sunday.
But him going to Liberty doesn't surprise me. He and his wife have been playing the forgiveness tour card for over a year now. He's playing "church games" still- and that's what keeps him in the fold for someone like Liberty despite his transgressions. Plus, I would imagine that Freeze would much rather be a head coach than a coordinator for someone like Saban, Pruitt, or Mahlzahn. If the SEC will even allow it.
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