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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Update on Texas Tech search

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    That tweet is surely a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Leach can't go back to Tech. He's currently suing the University & told the former President, who still has major pull, to 17 off
    Sucks for Tech then. He basically was fired because big donors didn't like him. It will be interesting to see who they go after.

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    I can't believe guys like Aranada and Thompson don't get more sniffs as potential head coaches. Maybe they don't want it or their personalities aren't the stuff of HC but they both have incredibly strong resumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    I can't believe guys like Aranada and Thompson don't get more sniffs as potential head coaches. Maybe they don't want it or their personalities aren't the stuff of HC but they both have incredibly strong resumes.
    I don't understand the lack of interest in Aranda either.

    It's almost like there is something wrong with him that isn't being reported.

    The media has no issue pushing the narrative that he's a savant until head jobs come open. Then he disappears
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I disagree. Hiring a good football coach is really hard & uncertain. If Mac can hire the right assistants, I think he can get them back to being an 8 win program, then retire in 5 years, & they give the next guy a wonderful launching point.

    I think people are seeing that they want mature adults that can get the trains to run on time over the glitzy, sparkly up & coming offense guy. The Kingsburys, Fuentes, etc just haven't been great. Moorhead is still somewhat unknown

    We've just entered into a new cycle of coach hiring. Herm, Miles, Brown. Lovie, etc
    You may be right. And I sort of contradicted myself in pointing out Herm and Butch Davis doing OK. I just don't think Brown has it anymore though. He will possibly do fine if all they expect are 7-8 win seasons with an occasional 9-10 win season. The ACC is a meh conference where every team but 1 goes about 7-5/8-4 every year - and they all suck. If they expect him to develop into Clemson, or late 1990s UNC, they will be very disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Best coach they’ve ever had. Over two decades ago. You want to rehire JWS, much as we love him?
    They could hire Brown and some up and coming coach that Mac could tutor and then turn over the program to when he is ready.

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    I think there are G 5 coaches out there that would be success at a P 5.

    They might be G 5 but they win and win big every year. They are beating the teams in their league. They would do the same in a P 5. Coaching is coaching. If you are good then you are good. Hell even Saban first HC job was at what is a G 5 school. I think Toledo.

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    Tech should take Mike Leach back in a heartbeat. I really think UNC is stupid for not taking a longer look at Seth Littrell. The last time their offense was worth a 17 he was the one calling the plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I think there are G 5 coaches out there that would be success at a P 5.

    They might be G 5 but they win and win big every year. They are beating the teams in their league. They would do the same in a P 5. Coaching is coaching. If you are good then you are good. Hell even Saban first HC job was at what is a G 5 school. I think Toledo.
    Of course there are, but who are they?

    Any G5 coach is way more risky than Brown.
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    Clay Travis is pounding the table hard for Freeze to be Tennessee's OC

    Imo, the SEC can't allow that to happen. With Tennessee's recruiting culture, Freeze there would be a disaster. The NCAA will be out to get Freeze and I doubt the SEC wants them snooping around Knoxville
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Clay Travis is pounding the table hard for Freeze to be Tennessee's OC

    Imo, the SEC can't allow that to happen. With Tennessee's recruiting culture, Freeze there would be a disaster. The NCAA will be out to get Freeze and I doubt the SEC wants them snooping around Knoxville
    So if Pruitt gets freeze as his OC, you still say Pruitt has no idea what he's doing? That would be quite a hire

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Clay Travis is pounding the table hard for Freeze to be Tennessee's OC

    Imo, the SEC can't allow that to happen. With Tennessee's recruiting culture, Freeze there would be a disaster. The NCAA will be out to get Freeze and I doubt the SEC wants them snooping around Knoxville
    Well it fits in perfect with the Hugh Freeze myth - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...h-freeze-story

    They were alone together, driving through the summer twilight, aglow in the blush of love. It was July of 1992, and the bride and groom cruised away from the Baptist church in Independence, Miss., and into the first hours of their future, which now began on an endless expanse of road, rich with possibility.

    What a couple they were, rolling through the backwoods of Mississippi and into the Tennessee Valley on their way to the Smoky Mountains of Gatlinburg, Tenn., where they would honeymoon. But Hugh Freeze, 22 and then a first-year assistant coach at Briarcrest Christian High in Memphis, had a surprise for his wife, Jill. He pulled off Interstate-40 at Knoxville and drove onto the University of Tennessee campus. He eased into the parking lot at Neyland Stadium. The gates were shackled, but husband and wife slipped through a small opening.


    They walked into the empty stadium, the grandstands stretching up, up and up, seemingly to touch the basement of heaven. A whisper of wind feathering their cheeks, Hugh grabbed Jill's hand. They looked at each other, practically disappearing into each other's eyes. He had something to say, and it was almost as important as the vows he'd taken in the small white clapboard church topped with a steeple.

    "I will be a head coach in the SEC one day," he said softly. "I will."

    "I know," Jill replied. "I know."

    In the growing darkness, the two kissed. And in this silent stadium, on this silent summer night, so began one of the most unlikely coaching journeys in college football history.
    I think I'm gonna puke now.....
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    Something to watch for this off season: for the first time, Dabo's staff could get gutted.

    He hasn't had to deal with nearly the same coaching turnover as Saban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Leach can't go back to Tech. He's currently suing the University & told the former President, who still has major pull, to 17 off
    Yeah, Leach and TT went through a really messy divorce and Leach does have a good cause for suing. Tech ****ed up firing him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choctaw Dawg View Post
    Yeah, Leach and TT went through a really messy divorce and Leach does have a good cause for suing. Tech ****ed up firing him
    Wasn't that the whole Craig James' kid debacle? I still think James was the cause of a lot of that mess. He did kill 5 hookers you know.****
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Wasn't that the whole Craig James' kid debacle? I still think James was the cause of a lot of that mess. He did kill 5 hookers you know.****
    That’s right, he was out with a concussion and was made to stay in an equipment shed for practice, allegedly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Agree. There just doesn't seem to be much of a quality G5 coaching pool or big time OCs looking for a head job.

    I think hiring are cyclical. Everyone wants the up & coming, young guy until many of those guys start failing. Then they want the older retreads. I think we are now squarely in the re-tread part of the cycle.
    I think it's just a math issue. Not everybody can get a coach without a blemish. For most schools, doing so requires dropping down a level, and even then, if enough people are going that route, you eventually end up having to hire a guy with two years of success at a G5 because they are getting plucked up before they have a chance to establish themselves.

    Lots of coaches are good coaches but not good enough to avoid an occasional dip, and with today's culture, that means they're going to get fired. I still think Hud should be a viable head coaching candidate for a lot of schools. He was the most successful coach in ULL history. He may not be the next great, but I suspect if you can turn around a culture like that you can probably be a pretty good coach at a higher level too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Of course there are, but who are they?

    Any G5 coach is way more risky than Brown.
    Utah sTate coach
    UAB coach
    UCF current coach
    Memphis coach

    Lets not forget pretty boy down in Florida.

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