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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    350 rushing yards is great. Wish we had stuck with using our RBs. Kylin had 23 carries vs auburn for 126 yards (5.48 per). Since then in 3 games, he has 20 carries for 109 yds (5.45 per). It worked vs a good sec defense, but we scrapped it... guess that's on fitz
    If your scheme cant get the ball to your best players then your scheme is stupid and needs to change.


    Its easy to get the ball to your RBs. Theres no excuse for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Well for 10 years we have multiple home and away combinations vs SEC and ranked teams. And it’s never been this low, dissect it how ever you want, you have to go all the back to 2005 to get close to these numbers and that was still better. The absolutely biggest positive is that we have been ok to very good against weak teams. But against strong teams, no matter how good or bad we have been in the past, including last season, this year is the worst.
    Or we had 2 games early against a very good UK defense on the Road and a pretty good (#34 is pretty good) UF team. Everyone said it would take 4-5 games for the team to really start working in the offense. We did struggle but we also had 160 yards of penalties at UK. The penalties is part of the coaches responsibility but the truth is, Dan Mullen absolutely loses that game with those kind of penalties.

    UF game at home is the head scratcher. When Mitchell dropped that pass, you felt all the air go out of the stadium. We needed someone to step up and make something happen but the team just didn't recover.

    LSU is a tough one because we haven't played that bad down there in a while. Mullen only had one year that he didn't score double digits. We haven't won but we also haven't embarrassed them before like last year. If you don't think LSU had that game circled then I don't know what to tell you. When you beat someone that bad then they are ready when you come to their house.

    Bama - We pretty much did exactly what we have done for the past 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Well for 10 years we have multiple home and away combinations vs SEC and ranked teams. And it’s never been this low, dissect it how ever you want, you have to go all the back to 2005 to get close to these numbers and that was still better. The absolutely biggest positive is that we have been ok to very good against weak teams. But against strong teams, no matter how good or bad we have been in the past, including last season, this year is the worst.
    That's where I think you can chalk up the impact of the change in system. The same issues we had under Mullen are exasperated during this transition because lack of comfort in the system amplified things.

    Even if you just confine it to the Fitz era, you see the same things. In our losses, our RBs are shut down, our running game forced into Fitz' hands. One option is taken away. If Fitz completes passes consistently, then it still opens up his running game. When he can't, it gets us behind the sticks and then his running can be neutralized. It's no coincidence that when Fitz has a consistent game passing he puts up huge numbers running the ball as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    That's where I think you can chalk up the impact of the change in system. The same issues we had under Mullen are exasperated during this transition because lack of comfort in the system amplified things.

    Even if you just confine it to the Fitz era, you see the same things. In our losses, our RBs are shut down, our running game forced into Fitz' hands. One option is taken away. If Fitz completes passes consistently, then it still opens up his running game. When he can't, it gets us behind the sticks and then his running can be neutralized. It's no coincidence that when Fitz has a consistent game passing he puts up huge numbers running the ball as well.
    I can agree with some of that. But this trend does go further back for a comparable. Before Mullen. And to be clear I’ve said and like the post about the historically low yards per attempt, it is an extremely odd anomaly with the numbers. Either we should be more productive against all opponents, especially with the retuning starters and scoring, or we should have had a poor output vs a weak opponent as well. That really hasn’t happened either. The bad is historically bad vs at least somewhat similar top defenses. The good games is right in line or correct for a transition regression at worse

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    Sometimes I wonder if y?all even watched he LSU game.

    A lot of the runs were Fitz with nobody in the backfield stutter stepping and then running up the middle.

    There was no choice to give it to someone.

    Go back and watch and you?ll see.

    This blaming it on Fitz defieslogic in so many ways.

    Why didn?t he do it last year?
    If it?s a problem, why doesn?t Morehead change it?

    Etc etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    it aint rocket surgery--when you play top defenses in SEC your offense isn't the same as vs Little Sister's of the Poor.
    Nominated for "Worst Post of the Year"! Unless that's over and probably is since Cadaver doesn't post here much anymore. He probably started a new site and has to keep it a secret from some posters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I can agree with some of that. But this trend does go further back for a comparable. Before Mullen. And to be clear I?ve said and like the post about the historically low yards per attempt, it is an extremely odd anomaly with the numbers. Either we should be more productive against all opponents, especially with the retuning starters and scoring, or we should have had a poor output vs a weak opponent as well. That really hasn?t happened either. The bad is historically bad vs at least somewhat similar top defenses. The good games is right in line or correct for a transition regression at worse
    I am not going to point to this as an excuse - just an observation.

    Luck is something of a variable. Mitchell catches a sure TD pass, cut our 165 yards in penalties against U.K. in half probably allows at least 1 drive to creating a score of not more; a horrible call in the Bama game negating a score. We've been like the anti-2013 Auburn team in terms of random stuff impacting games.

    My point being that sometimes statistical anomalies are impacted by outside forces. Over the course of a season, it should even out but occasionally they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    That's where I think you can chalk up the impact of the change in system. The same issues we had under Mullen are exasperated during this transition because lack of comfort in the system amplified things.

    Even if you just confine it to the Fitz era, you see the same things. In our losses, our RBs are shut down, our running game forced into Fitz' hands. One option is taken away. If Fitz completes passes consistently, then it still opens up his running game. When he can't, it gets us behind the sticks and then his running can be neutralized. It's no coincidence that when Fitz has a consistent game passing he puts up huge numbers running the ball as well.
    I disagree regarding leaving the ball in Fitz hands, he's selecting to keep the ball. It's predictable. Anytime we get near the goalline Fitz is keeping the ball regardless. He wants the TD. Anytime the running back gets into a small rhythm he keeps the ball. He feels he must get apart of the game. He's not the best decision maker. It's the same stumbling block on passing downs. Dude is an athlete that's playing the Qb position, period. He's not an athletic Qb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Nominated for "Worst Post of the Year"! Unless that's over and probably is since Cadaver doesn't post here much anymore. He probably started a new site and has to keep it a secret from some posters...
    is there a nomination for dickhead of the year? i'm sure you would be in contention. Odds on favorite.

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