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					11-14-2018, 07:54 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 Fitz and Bryant faced 2 common opponents (auburn and bama) last season. Here's the combined stats for each...
 
 KB:  37/65 (56.9)  305 yds (4.7 per att)  0 td  2 int;  38 rushes  78 yds  (2.0 per carry)  2 td
 
 NF:  26/57 (45.6)  315 yds (5.5 per att) 1 td  2 int;  34 rushes  122 yds (3.6 per carry)  1 td
 
 Now I'd love to see the passing stats if you flipped WRs. Even so, fitz still got almost 1 yard more per att
 
 
 
 They both also faced TAM this season
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 08:08 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Really Clark?  
 They both also faced TAM this season 
 
 
 Good call...
 
 KB:  12/17 (70.6)  205 yds (12.1 per)  1 td  0 int; 15 rushes 54 yds (3.6 per)  1 td
 
 NF:  14/22 (63.6)  241 yds (11.0 per)  2 td  0 int;  16 rushes  88 yds (5.5 per)  2 td
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 08:18 AM
				
			
			
				
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							I'd much rather take a chance on the little guy, mason fine. First in his conf in passing yds/game, 2nd in rating, 4th in yds/att, 2nd in td passes, only thrown 2 ints, and his team does not have the best surrounding cast in the conference. He is tiny though, so make sure key or mayden stick around bc fine may not make it through the season healthy
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:06 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 Good call...
 
 KB:  12/17 (70.6)  205 yds (12.1 per)  1 td  0 int; 15 rushes 54 yds (3.6 per)  1 td
 
 NF:  14/22 (63.6)  241 yds (11.0 per)  2 td  0 int;  16 rushes  88 yds (5.5 per)  2 td
 
 
 
 I?m not sure why we are comparing KB to Fitz. I think everyone would be happy to have another year of Fitz. We are possibly bringing in KB because we don?t have anything comparable to Fitz after he leaves.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:14 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msudawglb  
 I?m not sure why we are comparing KB to Fitz. I think everyone would be happy to have another year of Fitz. We are possibly bringing in KB because we don?t have anything comparable to Fitz after he leaves. 
 
 
 I love fitz, but I want no part of another year of fitz with Moorhead as the coach. We need a pass first qb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:19 AM
				
			
			
				
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							I think the bottom line is that if our coaches believe KB can help us win bring him in. They see these kids every day and if it's true that KT isn't picking up the offense then let's don't try and fit a square peg in a round hole two straight years. Let's get a one year rental and let Mayden and Schrader battle it out in 2020.
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:43 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Y'all are comparing him to Fitz.  Compare him to what we've got next year.  That's why we're recruiting him.  Nobody is saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, he's just better than what's on campus next year.  We can win 7+ games with him and then turn it over to Shrader.  That's what we're looking for.  We aren't looking at winning a natty next year.
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:47 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 Y'all are comparing him to Fitz.  Compare him to what we've got next year.  That's why we're recruiting him.  Nobody is saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, he's just better than what's on campus next year.  We can win 7+ games with him and then turn it over to Shrader.  That's what we're looking for.  We aren't looking at winning a natty next year. 
 
 
 Exactly.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:47 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 Y'all are comparing him to Fitz.  Compare him to what we've got next year.  That's why we're recruiting him.  Nobody is saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, he's just better than what's on campus next year.  We can win 7+ games with him and then turn it over to Shrader.  That's what we're looking for.  We aren't looking at winning a natty next year. 
 
 
 You'll see how overrated he is next season. Please go to ark... that may swing toss up to win for us. I watch a ton of acc games, and KB is terrible
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:49 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 You'll see how overrated he is next season. Please go to ark... that may swing toss up to win for us. I watch a ton of acc games, and KB is terrible 
 
 
 Then you don't want to hear about what we've got on campus right now.  Hell, they can't even beat out Fitz.  They wouldn't beat out Bryant either.  This is for one year to keep the bowl streak alive and the fans somewhat happy until we can get our WRs and QB in here.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:49 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 You'll see how overrated he is next season. Please go to ark... that may swing toss up to win for us. I watch a ton of acc games, and KB is terrible 
 
 
 You're wrong on this 1. He's not close to terrible. He's not elite by any means but he'd very solid for MSU. Now at Arkansas he may stink Bc they're not good.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:52 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 Then you don't want to hear about what we've got on campus right now.  Hell, they can't even beat out Fitz.  They wouldn't beat out Bryant either.  This is for one year to keep the bowl streak alive and the fans somewhat happy until we can get our WRs and QB in here. 
 
 
 Again, take the chance on mason fine. He's a far superior PASSER, which is what Moorhead needs. He'll probably be broken bc his size, but he's more of what we need than KB
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:59 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Upper echelons go out and get better talent and win by doing so.   Feelings get hurt in the process.  It's called running a successful business.
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 09:59 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 Again, take the chance on mason fine. He's a far superior PASSER, which is what Moorhead needs. He'll probably be broken bc his size, but he's more of what we need than KB 
 
 
 So bring in a kid that'll probably be injured midway through the season which means we'll then have to turn to Mayden or Schrader.......if that's the case don't bother wasting a scholly on anyone and just let those two battle it out in fall camp.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 10:02 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  StarkVegasSteve  
 So bring in a kid that'll probably be injured midway through the season which means we'll then have to turn to Mayden or Schrader.......if that's the case don't bother wasting a scholly on anyone and just let those two battle it out in fall camp. 
 
 
 Well, he may not get hurt... he hasn't missed a game in his career yet. Hell, I'm probably wrong about injury, Tyson lee made it in Mullen's offense
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 10:27 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 I love fitz, but I want no part of another year of fitz with Moorhead as the coach. We need a pass first qb 
 
 
 Ditto... And KB ain't it. It will be a replay of this year. KB coming here may be worth 1 extra win. But why upset the depth we have at QB. While some think next year is gap measure before Schrader gets here, again why not let Key and Mayden get the experience through live action. Prove those guys can't get it done. Those guys couldn't have been that bad not to play KU, FL or LSU when Fitz was hot garbage. Moorhead hasn't shown consistency all season. So just maybe his confusion infected his QBs. Only side of the ball that had an identity was the defense. You knew what you were getting week in and week out
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
					
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					11-14-2018, 10:45 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  BhamDawg205  
 Ditto... And KB ain't it. It will be a replay of this year. KB coming here may be worth 1 extra win. But why upset the depth we have at QB. While some think next year is gap measure before Schrader gets here, again why not let Key and Mayden get the experience through live action. Prove those guys can't get it done. Those guys couldn't have been that bad not to play KU, FL or LSU when Fitz was hot garbage. Moorhead hasn't shown consistency all season. So just maybe his confusion infected his QBs. Only side of the ball that had an identity was the defense. You knew what you were getting week in and week out 
 
 
 You'd rather lose games trying to prove a QB isn't good enough, than win an extra game and be similar to this year?  Makes perfect sense!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 10:52 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  BhamDawg205  
 Ditto... And KB ain't it. It will be a replay of this year. KB coming here may be worth 1 extra win. But why upset the depth we have at QB. While some think next year is gap measure before Schrader gets here, again why not let Key and Mayden get the experience through live action. Prove those guys can't get it done. Those guys couldn't have been that bad not to play KU, FL or LSU when Fitz was hot garbage. Moorhead hasn't shown consistency all season. So just maybe his confusion infected his QBs. Only side of the ball that had an identity was the defense. You knew what you were getting week in and week out 
 
 
 If he's worth one extra win then you get him. That's one game you don't win with what you currently have. And last time I checked YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					11-14-2018, 10:54 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Cooterpoot  
 You'd rather lose games trying to prove a QB isn't good enough, than win an extra game and be similar to this year?  Makes perfect sense! 
 
 
 So you throw out rumours these guys suck? What make you think KB can get it done in JoMo's offense? He'll KT is 2-1 and shown the ability to throw. Look like he had know problem on where to go, unlike Fitz at times. KT's mechanics does need work,  but that's coaching not mental.
 I would for Matt Wyatt or anyone to break down KB's ability to read defenses pre and post snap. That's what JoMo's offense requires right?
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
					
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							Man this is an epic hijack
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
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