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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberBeast View Post
    After the post game have you seen anyone say anything about those calls? I haven’t, and I don’t think anyone will say anything about it.

    The SEC Office isn't going to open up that can of worms. They want Bama to win another National Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberBeast View Post
    After the post game have you seen anyone say anything about those calls? I haven?t, and I don?t think anyone will say anything about it.
    On SEC Now they talked about the block in the back being a terrible call. And I saw Chris Fowler criticize it on Twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    On SEC Now they talked about the block in the back being a terrible call. And I saw Chris Fowler criticize it on Twitter.
    Fowler after the game or during the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    JoMo is the OC and JoMo is calling the plays, and it's different than what Fitz did for his first three years, so yeah, it's JoMo's offense. Did you see SEC film room last week when they were breaking down all the different reads that the QB had during the course of a few plays? Yeah, this is JoMo's offense and he, and not Fitz is singularly responsible for the results. You can't criticize Fitz for being put in a position of having to do something he is incapable of doing. That's not fair. Good coaches alter their systems to accentuate their players' strengths. Bad coaches run their system regardless of players' abilities.

    I'm not criticizing Fitz, and I feel for Fitz, and wanted him to have a Heisman type year. This offense has still been water downed, streamlined, or whatever you want to call it There is really not all the RPO options available that JoeMo would like to use. So we aren't going to surprise a team, especially one like Bama. I also think a lot of our offensive problems today were due to those 5* defensive players, and especially Quinnen Williams and playing in Bryant Denny. I think Willlams pretty much helped dictate our offensive performance. or lack of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Bama zero penalties. I think they were calling our snap count, the reason for 2 snaps when we weren't ready

    Those referees would be like they had ear plugs in their ears if Bama called our snap count. So that is a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    I'm not criticizing Fitz, and I feel for Fitz, and wanted him to have a Heisman type year. This offense has still been water downed, streamlined, or whatever you want to call it There is really not all the RPO options available that JoeMo would like to use. So we aren't going to surprise a team, especially one like Bama. I also think a lot of our offensive problems today were due to those 5* defensive players, and especially Quinnen Williams and playing in Bryant Denny. I think Willlams pretty much helped dictate our offensive performance. or lack of it.
    I take nothing away from Alabama. It's tough to beat them even if you play perfectly. We just have no margin for error, so we can't have mistakes. Fitz made a few. The o-line made way too many. We saw too many drops by our WRs. We saw some ignorant playcalling at times. Fitz's big mistake today was getting the delay penalty to wipe away that TD. But there are little things that happen during the course of a game that show Moorhead is asking too much of these players with his offense. The flea flicker is a great example....it was a brilliant play call at the right time, and it was a TD if Fitz sees it. The problem is that Fitz didn't see it, because he had to go through a series of reads to figure out who to throw it to...and by then, it was too late.

    I still don't see why Aeris can't get more than five carries. This game is custom made for a back like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    I think you are missing his point. No shit, we can't win 10 games with this Jekyll & Hyde version of Fitz. The reason he is Jekyll and Hyde is Moorhead's offense. Fitz was better as a sophomore than a senior, and I'll let you decide the reason for it. Most already know.
    Moorhead's offense has absolutely nothing to do with Fitz's blatant inability to see 6 dudes blitzing inside his pants. He has some sort of odd tunnel vision in which he is completely unable to see the 6 guys sprinting straight at him while he does nothing at all to avoid them. That ain't Moorhead. That is ALL Fitzgerald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Moorhead's offense has absolutely nothing to do with Fitz's blatant inability to see 6 dudes blitzing inside his pants. He has some sort of odd tunnel vision in which he is completely unable to see the 6 guys sprinting straight at him while he does nothing at all to avoid them. That ain't Moorhead. That is ALL Fitzgerald.
    If he had the same issues when the other guy was the coach, you'd have a point. He didn't, so you don't. Period.

    I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand - Fitz doesn't have time to see 6 dudes blitzing him. He's looking downfield trying to read four different things and decide where to throw the ball. he's indecisive, and holding on to the ball too long as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    If he had the same issues when the other guy was the coach, you'd have a point. He didn't, so you don't. Period.

    I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand - Fitz doesn't have time to see 6 dudes blitzing him. He's looking downfield trying to read four different things and decide where to throw the ball. he's indecisive, and holding on to the ball too long as a result.
    You have to realize who you are arguing with. Dawg61 has the football IQ of a little kid, he simply has no idea what he’s talking about. Let it be.

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    I do not know if this offense does not have hot routes or if Fitz doesn?t know them but every single time we get blitzed it works for the team blitzing us in conference play. I realize it is easier to armchair qb, but there has to be an alternative to these long routes when we get a blitz. I would like someone to ask Moorhead what is happening on those plays because I honestly believe he would give a straight answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberBeast View Post
    You have to realize who you are arguing with. Dawg61 has the football IQ of a little kid, he simply has no idea what he?s talking about. Let it be.
    Good post +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr. View Post
    Avg points per sec game:

    2017- 26.25
    2018- 11.16

    For the internet toigh guys, splain how our exact offense last year plus Guidry and hill is 15 points worse per game than last year.
    I agree with this.

    I'd like that explained also. We upgraded talent. So where should the blame go? it's obvious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    If he had the same issues when the other guy was the coach, you'd have a point. He didn't, so you don't. Period.

    I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand - Fitz doesn't have time to see 6 dudes blitzing him. He's looking downfield trying to read four different things and decide where to throw the ball. he's indecisive, and holding on to the ball too long as a result.
    He wasn't a year removed from a broken ankle with no spring practice when the other guy was the coach. There's a check down option on every play. Moorhead can't make Fitz see the 6 dudes blitzing him but he should make him throw to the check down option when it does happen so for that I will agree it's on Moorhead for being a walking cactus on the sideline instead of getting on Fitz repeatedly about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberBeast View Post
    Fowler after the game or during the game?
    It appeared to be during the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberBeast View Post
    You have to realize who you are arguing with. Dawg61 has the football IQ of a little kid, he simply has no idea what he’s talking about. Let it be.
    This is rich. I remember zero of what you post ever because you're basically invisible on this board. You seem to always know what I post though.

    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Good post +1
    Yea +1 coming from the guy sniffing glue saying Mullen couldn't win a championship yet somehow Moorhead blew it. +eggplant on that logic

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    Jeeez, we got robbed today as bad as I have EVER seen, and I've seen some of the worst crap imaginable, and all you idiots want to do is bad mouth our own. 17 Bama, Bammers, Tusk, Saban, and double 17 anyone who was born in Mississippi and never attended the University of Alabama but roots for them. An Ole Miss friend of mine summed you traitors up: he said you were all bathroom Bama alums. You once took a leak at a gas station in some place like Gordo or Culman, and therefore had some sort of connection that enabled you to scream Row Thide.

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    We got robbed on a 14 point swing today. No way in hell they played a perfect game today. However, our OL got beat today and that’s where the difference was in this game.
    Happy Festivus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Jeeez, we got robbed today as bad as I have EVER seen, and I've seen some of the worst crap imaginable, and all you idiots want to do is bad mouth our own. 17 Bama, Bammers, Tusk, Saban, and double 17 anyone who was born in Mississippi and never attended the University of Alabama but roots for them. An Ole Miss friend of mine summed you traitors up: he said you were all bathroom Bama alums. You once took a leak at a gas station in some place like Gordo or Culman, and therefore had some sort of connection that enabled you to scream Row Thide.
    We got jobbed. Look straight up they are better. Have no problem admitting it but the final score is a joke. So proud of our guys. They don’t us again!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Jeeez, we got robbed today as bad as I have EVER seen, and I've seen some of the worst crap imaginable, and all you idiots want to do is bad mouth our own. 17 Bama, Bammers, Tusk, Saban, and double 17 anyone who was born in Mississippi and never attended the University of Alabama but roots for them. An Ole Miss friend of mine summed you traitors up: he said you were all bathroom Bama alums. You once took a leak at a gas station in some place like Gordo or Culman, and therefore had some sort of connection that enabled you to scream Row Thide.
    Liver, I love you bro, but this is not nearly the most "robbed' MSU has been vs Bammer.... not even close...

    You shoulda been around when Bahr was there and there was legit influence...

    I was impressed today...
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    I take nothing away from Alabama. It's tough to beat them even if you play perfectly. We just have no margin for error, so we can't have mistakes. Fitz made a few. The o-line made way too many. We saw too many drops by our WRs. We saw some ignorant playcalling at times. Fitz's big mistake today was getting the delay penalty to wipe away that TD. But there are little things that happen during the course of a game that show Moorhead is asking too much of these players with his offense. The flea flicker is a great example....it was a brilliant play call at the right time, and it was a TD if Fitz sees it. The problem is that Fitz didn't see it, because he had to go through a series of reads to figure out who to throw it to...and by then, it was too late.

    I still don't see why Aeris can't get more than five carries. This game is custom made for a back like him.
    Fitz had more then a few mistakes. He held on to the ball way too long today and had no pocket awareness (but he has never had that). He still doesn’t know where his hot routes are and that to me is disturbing for a fifth year senior. It tells me he doesn’t put much time into the playbook on his own time which is as an SEC QB you should do. Hell on the called back TD to Kylin Hill he almost didn’t get it to him on time. On the flea flicker, Fitz didn’t pay attention or see his priority target and Thomas had 10 yards of separation. If Fitz had just thrown it right down the middle, that’s a TD. He’s not a good QB and has low football IQ. He is a great athlete and runner but a low football IQ QB running this offense will get the offense shut down.

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