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If you are AD, what do you do today and at the end of the year?
Do you give Moorhead an ultimatum, bowl game or bust? Is getting the Egg Bowl a must win game?
Knowing next year is a down cycle year with LSU and Bama at home which means it is harder to win 8 games, does Joe have to win 8 next year with us losing some guys to the NFL?
Do you already put out feelers and get someone like Neal Brown lined up in case we end up 5-7?
There seems to be zero big time programs looking at changing at this current time also. Last year was a horrible time to look for a coach even though we got a great one on paper.
Last edited by Tbonewannabe; 10-26-2018 at 12:24 PM.
Reason: Deleted zero $ buyout, it is incorrect.
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Good question and I ain't got a clue really. I'd probably be conveying to Joe that as an OC, the point and yardage totals are exceedingly underwhelming with the personnel we have back from last year's offense, with all the experienced Srs and Jrs on it. I can see taking a small step back but hell, we went halfway around the globe backwards.
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Where did this $0 buyout myth come from, and why do people keep posting it when it gets refuted every time?
At any rate, if I were Cohen I'd tell Moorhead we better see some offensive improvement if he still wants to work here in 2020.
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Not much Cohen can do. He’s stuck with this hire for now.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Where did this $0 buyout myth come from, and why do people keep posting it when it gets refuted every time?
At any rate, if I were Cohen I'd tell Moorhead we better see some offensive improvement if he still wants to work here in 2020.
Wasn't it in USA today? Maybe I missed it being refuted. What is the actual buyout number then?
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Do you give Moorhead an ultimatum, bowl game or bust? Is getting the Egg Bowl a must win game?
Knowing next year is a down cycle year with LSU and Bama at home which means it is harder to win 8 games, does Joe have to win 8 next year with us losing some guys to the NFL?
Do you already put out feelers and get someone like Neal Brown lined up in case we end up 5-7?
The zero $ buyout is extremely interesting since it doesn't cost anything unlike Auburn.
There seems to be zero big time programs looking at changing at this current time also. Last year was a horrible time to look for a coach even though we got a great one on paper.
Please stop w this he has no buyout. That's wrong. If we fire him, we owe him money. That rumor has run it's and incorrect
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Cohen is latched to Moorhead , Cohen will have a hard time admitting that he made a mistake and will deflect as long as he can. Any push will come from outside the AD thru other channels and the President will force the AD's hand. As far as ultimatums that bullshit you hire them or fire them and the only way anything happens this year is if this team tanks and they miss a bowl. Then its all hands on deck. I would be very surprised if agents have already been spoken to, to gauge interest buts that as far as it goes right now.
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Really wish the Neal Brown obsession would leave this board. Dude lost to LIBERTY.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Do you give Moorhead an ultimatum, bowl game or bust? Is getting the Egg Bowl a must win game?
Knowing next year is a down cycle year with LSU and Bama at home which means it is harder to win 8 games, does Joe have to win 8 next year with us losing some guys to the NFL?
Do you already put out feelers and get someone like Neal Brown lined up in case we end up 5-7?
There seems to be zero big time programs looking at changing at this current time also. Last year was a horrible time to look for a coach even though we got a great one on paper.
If we let him go after year 1 you might as well light the stadium on fire.
There is legitimately nothing that could be more damaging to our Athletic Department.
Also, I'm not sure it's possible to miss a bowl game. We could line up and run the ball every snap and roll Ole Miss. People underestimate just how horrible their defense is.
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Originally Posted by
Anonymous
If we let him go after year 1 you might as well light the stadium on fire.
There is legitimately nothing that could be more damaging to our Athletic Department.
Also, I'm not sure it's possible to miss a bowl game. We could line up and run the ball every snap and roll Ole Miss. People underestimate just how horrible their defense is.
Don't overestimate how good our offense is *****
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Where did this $0 buyout myth come from, and why do people keep posting it when it gets refuted every time?
At any rate, if I were Cohen I'd tell Moorhead we better see some offensive improvement if he still wants to work here in 2020.
I guess it's because I have not actually seen a buyout number. I also have not seen the refutation of zero dollars. Can you please point me to what I missed?
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Originally Posted by
Anonymous
If we let him go after year 1 you might as well light the stadium on fire.
There is legitimately nothing that could be more damaging to our Athletic Department.
Also, I'm not sure it's possible to miss a bowl game. We could line up and run the ball every snap and roll Ole Miss. People underestimate just how horrible their defense is.
I told my wife, we could probably run the Wildcat with Kylin and Aeris in the backfield and win 3 more games never throwing a pass unless a WR was left uncovered.
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Originally Posted by
Mobile Bay
I guess it's because I have not actually seen a buyout number. I also have not seen the refutation of zero dollars. Can you please point me to what I missed?
I missed it also. All I heard was it being reported for $0 in a USA Today article.
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Right now? Nothing. You have to let the season play out.
5-7, 6-6 I would fire him. I would go hire Bill Clark for 2.3 million and give him a nice budget for his staff. I would be fine keeping the entire defensive staff if Bill agreed but the whole offensive staff except for Hud would have to be let go.
7-5 or better and you have no choice but to keep him for 1 more year.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Right now? Nothing. You have to let the season play out.
5-7, 6-6 I would fire him. I would go hire Bill Clark for 2.3 million and give him a nice budget for his staff. I would be fine keeping the entire defensive staff if Bill agreed but the whole offensive staff except for Hud would have to be let go.
7-5 or better and you have no choice but to keep him for 1 more year.
Spot on, I was disappointed Bill Clark wasn't in the mix last time. The guy can get it done.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Right now? Nothing. You have to let the season play out.
5-7, 6-6 I would fire him. I would go hire Bill Clark for 2.3 million and give him a nice budget for his staff. I would be fine keeping the entire defensive staff if Bill agreed but the whole offensive staff except for Hud would have to be let go.
7-5 or better and you have no choice but to keep him for 1 more year.
Does he run the spread similar to Dan or is it a different offense?
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Do you give Moorhead an ultimatum, bowl game or bust? Is getting the Egg Bowl a must win game?
Knowing next year is a down cycle year with LSU and Bama at home which means it is harder to win 8 games, does Joe have to win 8 next year with us losing some guys to the NFL?
Do you already put out feelers and get someone like Neal Brown lined up in case we end up 5-7?
There seems to be zero big time programs looking at changing at this current time also. Last year was a horrible time to look for a coach even though we got a great one on paper.
I sit down with Joe and ask him what can I do as your boss/AD to give you all that you need to be successful. I would tell him he's still "my man" to lead this program. If he feels like he may have made a mistake on any hires I would let him know I'll be in his corner. The guy needs to have success on the field, but he needs us to at least give him a chance. I remember Croom beat Nick Saban too. That seems to have worked out pretty good don't you think. All the bull crap about firing JM is ridiculous. The guy needs our support and a chance to redeem himself. We are better than that I would hope. Thank goodness some of our fans are perfect in what you do and never make a mistake. I wasn't perfect and made mistakes but thank goodness others believed in me and stayed the course.
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If we score under 10 against Tamu while only giving KT a couple series and giving our rbs a combined 10 carries then I make Hud OC immediately or interim coach until seasons end. Probably make him HC at end of year and bring back Knox.
Anyone saying coaches would be scared of the MSU job if we let JoMo go is a dumbass. Thats a pure loser mentality.
Last edited by Dawgology; 10-26-2018 at 02:07 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Bodaski
I sit down with Joe and ask him what can I do as your boss/AD to give you all that you need to be successful. I would tell him he's still "my man" to lead this program. If he feels like he may have made a mistake on any hires I would let him know I'll be in his corner. The guy needs to have success on the field, but he needs us to at least give him a chance. I remember Croom beat Nick Saban too. That seems to have worked out pretty good don't you think. All the bull crap about firing JM is ridiculous. The guy needs our support and a chance to redeem himself. We are better than that I would hope. Thank goodness some of our fans are perfect in what you do and never make a mistake. I wasn't perfect and made mistakes but thank goodness others believed in me and stayed the course.
I think we have to let the season play out. We still have a chance at 8-9 wins which would be equal to Dan's 2nd best season. Joe seems to be getting zero slack I think from the fear of Croom level offense. If we were close to the same offense as last year but with the same record then people would be a lot more calm.
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Lose to the sharks and he should be gone.
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