Let me sum up all the football threads into one...

[confucius say]

We should go ahead and do the statute of Dan in the junction. Best thing that ever happened to us. And we had owners of this site wishing he'd leave the last 5 years. Smh.

[yjnkdawg]

Not sure, but took 7 post as to the atmosphere here on the site not the program. Could be wrong

Yep, as the girl said to Saban in the tv bank commercial. You are probably right. However, on this site, some posters are always going to be bitching or griping about something. If DM was here, So why don't we open up our offense, etc. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Pollodawg]

I blame both Fitz and Jovester to a degree. It?s painfully obvious Fitzgerald has no clue what he?s doing in this offense. Zero clue. And I think Joe basically came in and said I?ll just run my offense without having Fitzgerald change anything about his style of play. I think Fitz did nothing all offseason, and I think Moorhead didn?t make him do anything all offseason. It?s almost like Moorhead considers this year a false start because this team had so many seniors. Like he came in and just decided to let these guys do what they do to finish out their career here, and he would get serious next season. That?s how it feels, and that?s stupid if that?s what happened. He trusted our seniors too much and just threw this year away.

[Pollodawg]

We should go ahead and do the statute of Dan in the junction. Best thing that ever happened to us. And we had owners of this site wishing he'd leave the last 5 years. Smh.

I know it’s old hat, but Mullen is THE best coach we’ve ever had. You don’t want to be the guy who follows the guy, and Moorhead is that guy.

[MadDawg]

I know it’s old hat, but Mullen is THE best coach we’ve ever had. You don’t want to be the guy who follows the guy, and Moorhead is that guy.

rep +1

[RezDog7]

I know it’s old hat, but Mullen is THE best coach we’ve ever had. You don’t want to be the guy who follows the guy, and Moorhead is that guy.

Didn't realize going to some bowl game was such a big deal, hell, there's half a hundred to go to. Don't give me that crap about being number one either. Do other schools talk about that like it's some big accomplishment. Even that season ended in failure. Mullen raised the floor, but only one a couple of big games and got his ass handed to him by ole miss when it mattered. I for one, am glad he's gone.

[Dawg61]

Looking at a playbook (and learning it) and executing it on the fly under pressure are two vastly different things. In order for things to work against good SEC defenses players have to be reacting and not thinking. We are still thinking. A new system, especially one that has multiple reads on every play, takes time to get to that reaction stage.

Well we've got issues if it takes half a season as a learning curve for the entire offense. More proof also that the high school QB ain't gonna be ready till half way through his sophomore season to start.

[msstate7]

Didn't realize going to some bowl game was such a big deal, hell, there's half a hundred to go to. Don't give me that crap about being number one either. Do other schools talk about that like it's some big accomplishment. Even that season ended in failure. Mullen raised the floor, but only one a couple of big games and got his ass handed to him by ole miss when it mattered. I for one, am glad he's gone.

Yeah, things are way better now. You should be happy...

[Homedawg]

Didn't realize going to some bowl game was such a big deal, hell, there's half a hundred to go to. Don't give me that crap about being number one either. Do other schools talk about that like it's some big accomplishment. Even that season ended in failure. Mullen raised the floor, but only one a couple of big games and got his ass handed to him by ole miss when it mattered. I for one, am glad he's gone.

Great. I just aspire for us to be a stepping stone again. Dan is the only coach that's ever left us wo being fired. Jackie was let go. Joe will be the next one fired. Rinse repeat. I'd take dan back now. Right now.

[Liverpooldawg]

Well we've got issues if it takes half a season as a learning curve for the entire offense. More proof also that the high school QB ain't gonna be ready till half way through his sophomore season to start.

Everybody is different and it ain't just the quarterback.

[Liverpooldawg]

Great. I just aspire for us to be a stepping stone again. Dan is the only coach that's ever left us wo being fired. Jackie was let go. Joe will be the next one fired. Rinse repeat. I'd take dan back now. Right now.

Yep, we hadn't been a stepping stone in half a century before Mullen. That in itself is a huge step up for the program.

[Liverpooldawg]

Didn't realize going to some bowl game was such a big deal, hell, there's half a hundred to go to. Don't give me that crap about being number one either. Do other schools talk about that like it's some big accomplishment. Even that season ended in failure. Mullen raised the floor, but only one a couple of big games and got his ass handed to him by ole miss when it mattered. I for one, am glad he's gone.

Other schools who do it for the first time do, yes. We ain't Bama.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Great. I just aspire for us to be a stepping stone again. Dan is the only coach that's ever left us wo being fired. Jackie was let go. Joe will be the next one fired. Rinse repeat. I'd take dan back now. Right now.

2010 - Gator Bowl (Round 1) - great bowl considering we hadn't been in a while
2011 - Music City Bowl - sense of the program building
2012 - Gator Bowl (Round 2) - program somewhat becoming stagnat
2013 - Liberty Bowl - regression
2014 - Orange Bowl - best bowl game in Mullen's tenure and we got our asses handed to us.
2015 - Belk Bowl - regression
2016 - St. Pete Bowl - regression
2017 - Gator Bowl (Round 3) (now TaxSlayer) - regression

If Moorhead doesn't get us to a bowl game this year, then I agree he's on a short leash.

Remind me again though, what about the list I just provided shows a marked improvement year over year? I see a lot of ups and downs.

Moorhead may not be the guy, but Mullen damn sure wasn't going to take us anywhere he hadn't already. He had reached his potential here.

[Pit Bull]

The team sucks, JOMO sucks, the players are stupid, play KT......

Just accept who we are.....nothing has radically changed in 50 years. We will NEVER get to the level of BAMA or other bluebloods. Six, seven, eight, nine, and occasionally ten wins are our MO. No point letting dreams of undefeated seasons ruin your life. We'll eventually upset BAMA.....normally once every 15-20 years, but someone else in the Western Div. will beat us to offset that delight. Works like a charm for me.

[RezDog7]

Yeah, things are way better now. You should be happy...

No, I'm not happy. Nobody that bleeds maroon and white is happy. I would've been fine if Mullen stayed, but it was obvious he didn't want to be here. I don't know if Joe is a terrible coach or if Fitz is the worst QB ever, but something isn't right. Unfortunately, this season is wasted so time to move forward. If we don't win another game, Joe needs to go. If we go to a bowl, give home a couple more years and go from there. Just stop acting like MSU was ever going to compete with the big boys. It's never happened and never will. Being number 1 for a few weeks didn't do anything for MSU other than an answer to sports trivia question.

[MadDawg]

Remind me again though, what about the list I just provided shows a marked improvement year over year? I see a lot of ups and downs.

Um, name one program not named Alabama that doesn't have ups and downs. And hell, even they do if you look over a long enough period.

[Dawg2003]

With him wanting to jump ship and go to that "real football school" as he called it. Just for your information, he didn't consider us a real football school. We were a stepping stone. If somebody doesn't want to be here, then the feelings are mutual.

Was he wrong? Are we a real football school? I always considered us a baseball school that also had a lot of good, competitive basketball years in our history and hopefully our future. I've never once considered us a football school. Playing in the SEC forces you to at least attempt to have a competitive football program, but I'd never consider us a football school or a destination job for a coach that wanted to win a national title. We are a destination job in baseball though and a place to be for a coach that wants to win a national title.

[Dawg2003]

Um, name one program not named Alabama that doesn't have ups and downs. And hell, even they do if you look over a long enough period.

True. Auburn and LSU recruit at a high level, and they are up and down. They can barely compete for titles with all the resources and talent they have.

[was21]

Mullen is a driven man....can't really hold it against him for any number of reasons too numerous to list.

[RiverCityDawg]

Muck Fan Dullen.

This is the thought I keep coming back to, but maybe for a different reason... We'd possibly be undefeated and ranked in the top 5 right now if he had not left us right before we were about to peak. This was my fear when he left and why I was hoping he would wait to leave AFTER this season (knowing he was likely going to leave soon). Just one more year, you hunchbacked bastard!