Interesting Comment By Bo Bounds This Morning....

[ShotgunDawg]

This morning Bo said that word from within the program was that Moorehead was caught off guard by the speed of SEC defenses & was not prepared for that until he saw it.

I think this is an interesting comment that brings up a number of questions:

- I'm not sure if you can blame this on Moorehead, sure he's responsible, but how would he have known?

- This is why people always ask when you hire a new coach, "Has he coached in the SEC?" I'm not sure why it didn't matter for Saban & Meyer, but maybe they are just outliers. This is why people ask whether or not coaches have SEC experience & why they rightfully should ask.

- It's amazing how the national media has effectively created an illusion that the quality of college football teams across the country is mostly similar. I don't completely blame the media though because 1. They are not scouts & 2. Everyone outside of the SEC footprint wants to believe their teams are similar with SEC teams.

- Will Moorehead also need this adjustment period in recruiting? My guess is yes

- If Moorehead has indeed learned his lesson, was it worth losing 2 games with this roster for him to learn it?

Just some thoughts on a comment that I think tells a lot. Also, I wish Moorehead would've learned his lesson a little quicker, but credit to him for making adjustments & realizing he wasn't in the land of slow white boys anymore in which decisions can be made slower & there is infinitely more field to work with due to the lack of speed.

[Big4Dawg]

This morning Bo said that word from within the program was that Moorehead was caught off guard by the speed of SEC defenses & was not prepared for that until he saw it.

I think this is an interesting comment that brings up a number of questions:

- I'm not sure if you can blame this on Moorehead, sure he's responsible, but how would he have known?

- This is why people always ask when you hire a new coach, "Has he coached in the SEC?" I'm not sure why it didn't matter for Saban & Meyer, but maybe they are just outliers. This is why people ask whether or not coaches have SEC experience & why they rightfully should ask.

- It's amazing how the national media has effectively created an illusion that the quality of college football teams across the country is mostly similar. I don't completely blame the media though because 1. They are not scouts & 2. Everyone outside of the SEC footprint wants to believe their teams are similar with SEC teams.

- Will Moorehead also need this adjustment period in recruiting? My guess is yes

- If Moorehead has indeed learned his lesson, was it worth losing 2 games with this roster for him to learn it?

Just some thoughts on a comment that I think tells a lot. Also, I wish Moorehead would've learned his lesson a little quicker, but credit to him for making adjustments & realizing he wasn't in the land of slow white boys anymore in which decisions can be made slower & there is infinitely more field to work with due to the lack of speed.

Because he practices against a top SEC defense everyday

[ShotgunDawg]

Because he practices against a top SEC defense everyday

Sure. Which makes it all the more perplexing.

How was our offense able to move the ball on our defense in preseason practice?

Also, how much of Nick not playing the Spring & missing the first game have to do with this?

[Jack Lambert]

Because he practices against a top SEC defense everyday

Practice speed is not game speed. I don't care what anyone says. I am not saying you don't practice hard but you do hold back in practice but in games you are going all out every play. Just like cramps. You hardly see anyone get cramps in practice and after Summer, fall camp you still see cramps in games. There is a different speed between the two.

Also Bo is a ass hat.

[ShotgunDawg]

Practice speed is not game speed. I don't care what anyone says. I am not saying you don't practice hard but you do hold back in practice but in games you are going all out every play. Just like cramps. You hardly see anyone get cramps in practice and after Summer, fall camp you still see cramps in games. There is a different speed between the two.

Also Bo is a ass hat.

Sure, maybe this is the reason.

It's clear that JoMo just wasn't aware of what the SEC standard was. Hard lesson learned but hopefully it has been learned

[dawgday166]

This morning Bo said that word from within the program was that Moorehead was caught off guard by the speed of SEC defenses & was not prepared for that until he saw it.

I think this is an interesting comment that brings up a number of questions:

- I'm not sure if you can blame this on Moorehead, sure he's responsible, but how would he have known?

- This is why people always ask when you hire a new coach, "Has he coached in the SEC?" I'm not sure why it didn't matter for Saban & Meyer, but maybe they are just outliers. This is why people ask whether or not coaches have SEC experience & why they rightfully should ask.

- It's amazing how the national media has effectively created an illusion that the quality of college football teams across the country is mostly similar. I don't completely blame the media though because 1. They are not scouts & 2. Everyone outside of the SEC footprint wants to believe their teams are similar with SEC teams.

- Will Moorehead also need this adjustment period in recruiting? My guess is yes

- If Moorehead has indeed learned his lesson, was it worth losing 2 games with this roster for him to learn it?

Just some thoughts on a comment that I think tells a lot. Also, I wish Moorehead would've learned his lesson a little quicker, but credit to him for making adjustments & realizing he wasn't in the land of slow white boys anymore in which decisions can be made slower & there is infinitely more field to work with due to the lack of speed.

How do you know it didn't affect Meyer & Saban? Meyer went 9-3 at FL and Saban went 8-4 at LSU. Both also came into SEC when it wasn't as strong as it is now.

[ShotgunDawg]

How do you know it didn't affect Meyer & Saban? Meyer went 9-3 at FL and Saban went 8-4 at LSU. Both also came into SEC when it wasn't as strong as it is now.

Good point. Maybe it did, but the quality of the conference disguised it. Good point

[Leroy Jenkins]

I call BS.... Unless CJM doesn't own a TV, (or a film projector, or a VHS player, or a radio, or a newspaper, or a magazine) which is unlikely.

[ShotgunDawg]

I call BS.... Unless CJM doesn't own a TV, which is unlikely.

I'm not sure TV does it justice.

Particularly when all the TV guys are trying to sell ocean front property in Arizona and you want to believe that property exists

[Irondawg]

I made this point after the FL loss but we know our secondary isn’t great. Not terrible but not at the level of a lot of teams. I think that plus the def line not going all out during practice might have painted a false illusion of how well we could pass.

[was21]

Bounds just parroting what a lot of other people already thought when he was hired and said as much

[ShotgunDawg]

Bounds just parroting what a lot of other people already thought when he was hired and said as much

I disagree. He has contacts inside the program. Much of what he attributes to being inside info is correct.

[was21]

Speed on film is not as apparent as it is in reality

[Tbonewannabe]

Also, we rolled everyone prior to UK. UK was screwed up from all of the penalties. There isn't many offenses that would do well with 160 yards of penalties.

[hacker]

Sure. Which makes it all the more perplexing.

How was our offense able to move the ball on our defense in preseason practice?

Also, how much of Nick not playing the Spring & missing the first game have to do with this?

The offense practices against the scout team, not the #1 defense for some reason. Not sure why.

[DanDority]

BOO and his you guy's life still is a ******* JOKE!

[BrunswickDawg]

How do you know it didn't affect Meyer & Saban? Meyer went 9-3 at FL and Saban went 8-4 at LSU. Both also came into SEC when it wasn't as strong as it is now.

Meyer and Saban also came to two programs who traditionally have had some of the fastest players - particularly on Defense - in the country. Makes that adjustment a lot easier.

To Shotgun's points - I can totally see it being possible, and not unprecedented for a coach to not be prepared for the across the board athleticism and speed of the SEC. We see it almost every year in bowl season when the SEC dominates bowl games. The only SEC teams Joe has faced in his coaching career were South Carolina (7-6) in the 1/2/10 Papa John's Bowl (W) and Vandy 2010 (W) & 2011 (L) . Those teams aren't exactly known for their speed.
And is it bonehead, stubborn, naive, etc.? Probably. In the long run, it probably helps us more then it hurts us. It puts an emphasis on what we need from a speed and athleticism standpoint to be successful. I wouldn't be shocked at all for Joe to go out and find some speed guys to round out our signing class.

[BrunswickDawg]

The offense practices against the scout team, not the #1 defense for some reason. Not sure why.

Because everyone practices against scout teams? The whole point of scout teams is to present the opposing team's scheme and replicate it on the field for practice. Haven't you seen "Rudy"?

[ckDOG]

Took him a couple Ls to figure out what his players are capable of doing live against quality competition. Y'all have to get over it. He's learning. We got better and will continue to get better as he learns what we can and cannot do. New staffs don't kick into high gear overnight - especially staffs not headed by power 5 veterans commanding 6M a year +. We paid for a green coach with upside. You have to live with the mistakes and move on or pony up 15M a year for Jimbo or Dabo.

[Bully13]

Took him a couple Ls to figure out what his players are capable of doing live against quality competition. Y'all have to get over it. He's learning. We got better and will continue to get better as he learns what we can and cannot do. New staffs don't kick into high gear overnight - especially staffs not headed by power 5 veterans commanding 6M a year +. We paid for a green coach with upside. You have to live with the mistakes and move on or pony up 15M a year for Jimbo or Dabo.

I'll go with CK's take. "word from within the program" Not Buying. I would hate like hell hearing that from JOMO's mouth.