I have heard a lot of reports coming out of the athletic office this week...

[BuckyIsAB****]

All I?m saying is this...my information is pretty damn accurate. The team wants KT just like they wanted Damian. Fitz fits one offense and one offense only and that?s Mullen?s.

And to go with Bucky..the practices are soft. Look at where most of the guys come from- 2 NFL guys (who don?t have to stay on guys as hard), a D-3 school QB coach, and a OL coach from Duke. Screams soft.

Yeah and the NFL is soft as charmin. Its hardly even real football anymore. That is not the SEC and it damn sure isnt MSU. Those ex NFL guys and D3 guys better adjust or they will find their ass back where they came from real quick. Johnson is probably the first head on the chopping block at this point

[Pit Bull]

I wouldn't think your starting SR QB being suspended for the 1st game is a very good example of a leader either. I had a bad feeling about leadership when this news broke. Crap like this plays with the pshycy of a team, whether you think so or not.

There was a reason Fitz was a ranked a 2 star QB coming out of high school......he was just one dimensional. But Mullen liked that one dimension and thought he could coach up the 2nd dimension in him. Now as a Sr in college......he still looks like a 2 star passer that he was in high school. And with a metal ankle, the one dimension he was good at appears to have dropped off as well. He just doesn't look the same as last year.

[BhamDawg205]

Uh...Mullen here for the last 9 years called the plays. Lincoln Riley is at OK. Several pro coaches do it and are very successful. Payton, McCarthy, Pederson to name 3

Ok by MSU standards Mullen was successful. Point was what coach came in to install a totally different system, been OC and built a successful program. Even elites don't do that. OK was a powerhouse way before Riley, all he has to do is don't muck it up.... And as for the NFL you're dealing with professional players who eat and s*** football for a living. Unlike NCAA, most NFL teams run primarily than same offense with different terminology and formations

[Really Clark?]

Ok by MSU standards Mullen was successful. Point was what coach came in to install a totally different system, been OC and built a successful program. Even elites don't do that. OK was a powerhouse way before Riley, all he has to do is don't muck it up.... And as for the NFL you're dealing with professional players who eat and s*** football for a living. Unlike NCAA, most NFL teams run primarily than same offense with different terminology and formations

Oh so now you want to add to the criteria, install new system, be OC and build a successful program and college only (and no, not all offenses in the NFL are the same). Bobby Petrino successful enough for you? Chip Kelly at Oregon? Malzhan took Auburn to a title game calling the plays. Spurrier called his plays at Florida

[Dawg2003]

Ok by MSU standards Mullen was successful. Point was what coach came in to install a totally different system, been OC and built a successful program. Even elites don't do that. OK was a powerhouse way before Riley, all he has to do is don't muck it up.... And as for the NFL you're dealing with professional players who eat and s*** football for a living. Unlike NCAA, most NFL teams run primarily than same offense with different terminology and formations

There's too much money involved not to have success pretty quickly. For any of these coaches really. If you're walking into a rebuild, you only get a year before improvement is expected. At some point, you have to be realistic and work with what you've got. I fear Moorhead may be a "genius" when developing a game plan on paper, but he doesn't have common sense and isn't realistic about the talent level at some positions.

My bigger concern is that Moorhead can't recruit the type of talent that he needs to run this offense. Which WR have we recruited? We have Schraeher coming, but what do we do in the meantime?

[BhamDawg205]

Oh so now you want to add to the criteria, install new system, be OC and build a successful program and college only (and no, not all offenses in the NFL are the same). Bobby Petrino successful enough for you? Chip Kelly at Oregon? Malzhan took Auburn to a title game calling the plays. Spurrier called his plays at Florida

Is this not what happening at MSU now? Petrino is good mind, but another Mullen... Chip was successful at Oregon, but Nike money helps to. Malzhan out athleted most his competition, and the SEC was behind when it came to the spread ( including Alabama). Living in AL, I witness how Auburn pushed Malzhan into actually hiring an OC. Spurrier turned FL into a powerhouse, but like he said, FL was a sleeping giant with the talent base. Didn't go so well in SC right.
Right now this team has has more than offensive problems. But our HC is bogged down implementing his offense.

[Mutt the Hoople]

Not sure how you write this post and then say Hail State at the end.

Posts like this do nothing but hurt our program. .

Because this is a message board. We can post whatever the heck we want. This reminds me of 2001, when the Sunshine Pumpers were telling us we were going to win the National Championship. Then, the team just laid down and died like dogs. Instead of taking the chance to become a great football player, Dontae took the time to smoke dope and get fat.

I actually had some guy wearing a Zorro suit and wearing a mask, telling me my negative posts were "bringing down the program". No, having a bunch of overrated, out-of-shape players coached by guys who were there to add time to their Retirement programs had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Recruits read message boards? Heck, today's high school recruit can barely read a menu.

[Really Clark?]

Is this not what happening at MSU now? Petrino is good mind, but another Mullen... Chip was successful at Oregon, but Nike money helps to. Malzhan out athleted most his competition, and the SEC was behind when it came to the spread ( including Alabama). Living in AL, I witness how Auburn pushed Malzhan into actually hiring an OC. Spurrier turned FL into a powerhouse, but like he said, FL was a sleeping giant with the talent base. Didn't go so well in SC right.
Right now this team has has more than offensive problems. But our HC is bogged down implementing his offense.

And none of that has anything to do with your premise that we couldn’t name any successful HC who also called plays. Don’t try to justify and expand what you originally asserted. There have been several who have done so

[Mutt the Hoople]

Lee should have listened to Longstreet. He should have tried to get between Meade and Washington and forced Meade to attack him. The Union position at Gettysburg was immensely strong. Lee slipped from the ranks of truely great generals in my mind the first time I went to Gettysburg and saw the ground. I think he fell into the trap of thinking he and his army were invincible.

It's been said that the three days at Gettysburg was the price the Confederacy paid for having such a great General as Robert E. Lee.

[RougeDawg]

99, you were the primary one giving people grief who didnt automatically agree with you that state was going to blow KY and florida out of the water. In fact, you thought we were bear trolls. So why should people get behind you on this?

This is an approach I?ve never really understood.

Anyone with a heardbeat and either two working ears or eyes, thought we would beat Kentucky and Florida. Slytanic could have easily cruised to two Wins against them.

Just because someone, myself included, does not realize our coach is incapable of recognizing Fitz and our OL are not up to par with his offense yet, does not mean we were wrong for thinking we would win the last two. We should have won the last two. Nobody on this board and hardly anyone around the nation saw the last two weeks coming.

I?ll let you in on a little secret why nobody predicted the last two weeks. Nobody actually thought a new HC was actually dumb enough to believe the SloMo offense would be the be all end all 100% the offense, 5 games into a season. Add on top of that your QB who does not fit your system, missed ALL OF SPRING and the 1st game. Any so called ?genius? or ?offensive guru? should recognize this before any keyboard cowboy on a message board.

Here?s another reason. We have a top 10-15 defense in all of college football. Any offense with a pulse is undefeated, or 4-1 at this point in the season with that type of defense. We are wasting a season that should have been and the main reason is SloMo.

[Dawgowar]

Because this is a message board. We can post whatever the heck we want. This reminds me of 2001, when the Sunshine Pumpers were telling us we were going to win the National Championship. Then, the team just laid down and died like dogs. Instead of taking the chance to become a great football player, Dontae took the time to smoke dope and get fat.

I actually had some guy wearing a Zorro suit and wearing a mask, telling me my negative posts were "bringing down the program". No, having a bunch of overrated, out-of-shape players coached by guys who were there to add time to their Retirement programs had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Recruits read message boards? Heck, today's high school recruit can barely read a menu.

Mutt, that was THE Zorro.