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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Well, Pickett and the University Greys were all in for that Lee guy at that place in PA about 150 years ago and we know how that turned out.*****
What in the hell does that have to do with us
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Originally Posted by
99jc
Some key players have voiced their concerns over the coaching this team has gotten offensively. From what I'm hearing there is dissention and is growing. I fear he has lost the team already. I wanted him to succeed but had my doubts from the beginning. I will be there Saturday but am not optimistic at all. I truly feel this season is going to spiral out of control. I heard Moorhead gets 2 years no matter what but if we go 0-8 in the SEC I'm not so sure now. Hailstate!
BS quit making shit up. " I've heard a lot of reports...." what the hell ever dude just stop.
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
This is 2016 all over again in the locker room. And the common denominator is the QB.
He works in one offense and one offense only and that?s Mullen. He?s worried more about his record chase and off the field stuff then film study.
Yeah its all one kids fault. The kid who plays as hard as anybody we have. GTFO
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Yeah, Longstreet never spoke to Lee again. Hope that doesn't happen to some of our present FB "leaders" after this season plays out.
Yeah maybe after the war he didnt but Longstreet fought many a more battle with Lee after Gettysburg.
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I just don't see it happening but if our team bails on a new coaching staff after 5 games they are really going to struggle with the remainder of their lives.
If there is dissension amongst the teams it's time for the team leaders to step up. I think we have a few good leaders but I wonder if we have enough for a struggling team. A lot of our guys seem pretty low key.
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
This is 2016 all over again in the locker room. And the common denominator is the QB.
He works in one offense and one offense only and that?s Mullen. He?s worried more about his record chase and off the field stuff then film study.
We still got that 9-win ban bet?
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
What in the hell does that have to do with us
The Greys were not under Pickett. They were under Gen Pettigrew. Both Pickett and Pettigrew were Division Commanders in Longstreet Corps during Picketts charge.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
So far we've played 1 dimensional offenses only in SEC. Go rewind the tape and look at how we had NO 3 & outs against a crappy FL offense that can't run the ball on anyone. How our CBs got their ass handed to them when FL WRs were blocking them. How Cole and Leo had multiple instances they could have laid the lumber ... and didn't. How our back 7 take bad angles all the time. And they're soft.
This D was touted as better than Bama's .. and it's not. And right now this is not the usual Bama D ... not as good. Talent is mostly there tho ... they're young.
ETA: KY is 71 in total O and FL is 93.
I don't remember anyone saying that we're better on defense than Alabama.
The bottom line on a defense is points allowed. We're allowing 13 points a game. Everything else is just nitpicky semantics. Like allowing 13 points to Florida- and the only TD on a trick play. But dammit- they didn't have any three and outs! Unacceptable!**
Even if we are playing one dimensional offenses at least we're not letting them score a lot on us.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I don't remember anyone saying that we're better on defense than Alabama.
The bottom line on a defense is points allowed. We're allowing 13 points a game. Everything else is just nitpicky semantics. Like allowing 13 points to Florida- and the only TD on a trick play. But dammit- they didn't have any three and outs! Unacceptable!**
Even if we are playing one dimensional offenses at least we're not letting them score a lot on us.
What I'm saying is ... if it don't improve we gonna get smoked when we face good offenses. Those ain't good offenses ... at all!
So if you want to keep saying "Well we good on D", we'll see what you say when TAM lays 42 on us, or a not-so-great LSU lays 28 on us, or Bama lays 7211 (that's 7 thousand 2 hundred 11).
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
What I'm saying is ... if it don't improve we gonna get smoked when we face good offenses. Those ain't good offenses ... at all!
So if you want to keep saying "Well we good on D", we'll see what you say when TAM lays 42 on us, or a not-so-great LSU lays 28 on us, or Bama lays 7211 (that's 7 thousand 2 hundred 11).
And if we hold them to 21 or less I'm sure you'll find something wrong with someone not laying the wood enough. Or their technique. Or whatever else you can cook up.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
And if we hold them to 21 or less I'm sure you'll find something wrong with someone not laying the wood enough. Or their technique. Or whatever else you can cook up.
Woo hoo ... we beat SFA 63-6, KSU 31-10, and ULL 56-10. Boy I'm feeling good now. Our offense is AWESOME, our defense is AWESOME ... everything is, well, just, AWESOME.
Last edited by dawgday166; 10-04-2018 at 10:21 PM.
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I wish this "I fear he has lost the team". and there is player dissension wouldn't be posted on a public message board, but it is what it is I guess. All that does is possibly hurt our recruiting, and accomplishes nothing. It also makes that bunch up the road happy, and gives them something to possibly use against us,. If this is actually factual, then some things just need to be kept quiet. At least not be posted on a public message board. IMO
Seems like what is mostly said by some our offensive players and offensive coaches alike is we need to execute the plays. That would be we need to communicate better, block better, get separation on pass routes, etc. Maybe his offense is too complicated, and it's too tough a learning curve, for our current players, or maybe our players were reading all the preseason accolades, and hopefully a light bulb has come on that showed that what you did last year doesn't win SEC games this year. Whatever, I think JoeMo will make some necessary changes to hopefully put our players in a better position to be successful, and that transfers to the execution on the field.
What I don't understand is why some of our players are saying noise is an issue on the offensive line. If that's the case then they are really going to be in for a shock when they walk out on the field at Tiger Stadium. Everybody should experience that Tiger Stadium crowd at night at least one time during their lifetime.
Last edited by yjnkdawg; 10-04-2018 at 10:28 PM.
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Enough already. I'm as upset as anyone but this crap is just beating a dead horse and is counter productive. Whine, whine, whine.....MSU fans in their natural element.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Yeah its all one kids fault. The kid who plays as hard as anybody we have. GTFO
Go ask your source then what he thinks.
And you?re really dumb as hell if you think 1?s practice against each other on game weeks outside of HS ball. It?s obvious you don?t know how the college game works. Stay in Rankin county.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
We still got that 9-win ban bet?
All I?m saying is this...my information is pretty damn accurate. The team wants KT just like they wanted Damian. Fitz fits one offense and one offense only and that?s Mullen?s.
And to go with Bucky..the practices are soft. Look at where most of the guys come from- 2 NFL guys (who don?t have to stay on guys as hard), a D-3 school QB coach, and a OL coach from Duke. Screams soft.
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
All I?m saying is this...my information is pretty damn accurate. The team wants KT just like they wanted Damian. Fitz fits one offense and one offense only and that?s Mullen?s.
And to go with Bucky..the practices are soft. Look at where most of the guys come from- 2 NFL guys (who don?t have to stay on guys as hard), a D-3 school QB coach, and a OL coach from Duke. Screams soft.
No argument from me. I detest this staff
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
Go ask your source then what he thinks.
And you?re really dumb as hell if you think 1?s practice against each other on game weeks outside of HS ball. It?s obvious you don?t know how the college game works. Stay in Rankin county.
LOL So some people would think that our NO 1 Defense would change this week to what Auburn runs on their defense and our NO 1 Offense would run what Auburn's offense runs. In walks the scout team. We are the ones who do that.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Woo hoo ... we beat SFA 63-6, KSU 31-10, and ULL 56-10. Boy I'm feeling good now. Our offense is AWESOME, our defense is AWESOME ... everything is, well, just, AWESOME.
Curiously left out the 13 to Florida.**
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Originally Posted by
99jc
Some key players have voiced their concerns over the coaching this team has gotten offensively. From what I'm hearing there is dissention and is growing. I fear he has lost the team already. I wanted him to succeed but had my doubts from the beginning. I will be there Saturday but am not optimistic at all. I truly feel this season is going to spiral out of control. I heard Moorhead gets 2 years no matter what but if we go 0-8 in the SEC I'm not so sure now. Hailstate!
You haven't heard shit.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Just to throw this out there:
Joe said tonight
We run the ball great, not a problem.
The pass blocking is a problem they are working on.
He talked about "culture" again. I get the impression he thinks we have a culture problem.
Now to the OP:
If true, could it be an OL mutiny against Johnson. Just a thought.
Let's say Johnson is that bad... It falls back to JoMo's scheme. If he observes O lineman out of position on certain plays. He should step in an correct it. JoMo should let his OC do his job and oversee implementation as a whole.
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