?If you fire him after one year, nobody would take the job? - BS

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

LSU turned it around last year. They ended up winning 9 games

And they started 3-2 with losses to us and Troy. And dang near dropped the Syracuse game.

[msstate7]

And they started 3-2 with losses to us and Troy. And dang near dropped the Syracuse game.

You thinking we turn it around this year?

[bluelightstar]

can't wait to see who we hire after going 4-8 and 3-9

[msstate7]

can't wait to see who we hire after going 4-8 and 3-9

How about Indiana's DC or Wisconsin's RB coach?

[Pit Bull]

It ain't happening, but if it did, we wouldn't be able to attract anybody that Cohen, or you or me would want to be our head coach.

I said this for the baseball team too and it may come back to haunt us still. We really have no more info. that Lemonis will do any better with the baseball program than Henderson did. Letting Henderson go abrubtly after 2 years with him taking us almost to the Championship round sent a message to other future good baseball coaches to make them leary of the MSU job......could be why we only had Lemonis left wanting it. Dont know for sure. I do know this......I saw Hendoo with a lot more fire in his belly than Moorhead.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

You thinking we turn it around this year?

Certainly not to 9-3. That would require us winning in Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge.

Here's what I think of Moorhead though. The guy was universally acclaimed by the college football world as an offensive guru. You don't get the level of praise he got and either a) be a phony or b) suddenly forget everything. I'm afraid that what they meant was "he has a brilliant offensive system" and we took it as "he's going to be highly successful with any personnel and can adapt to anything." Which means I think he can be successful if given a few years and if he's capable of recruiting the players he needs for his system. I think that Fitz is a poor fit in his offense, and I think that years of poor OL and WR recruiting is coming back to bite us. To make up for his inability to recruit talent at OL, Mullen had to get guys that were pretty much specialized to his system and our WRs flat out suck aside from Guidry (who still has more than a few drops this season). I'm disappointed that Moorhead is unwilling or unable to adjust more to Mullen's system, but whether or not he does get enough time to do what he wants is dependent on him figuring out how to adjust for this year, then either molding Key or Mayden into what he wants in a QB or praying that Schrader is ready to roll as a true freshmen. And again, actually being able to recruit the players he needs.

I don't think our pseudo-sociologists are correct in saying "southern kids just need to be yelled and cussed at more than them northern folk" and I sure as hell don't think there is a scenario where we should fire him this season aside from unforeseen scandal or maybe if we were to not win another game this season.

[Really Clark?]

Vandy fired Caldwell after his one 2-10 season and hired James Franklin. Franklin was an OC and considered an up and comer and good recruiter but not on the same level as Moorehead was thought of. And Franklin was about to be looking for a job since the Maryland HC was fired that season.

A right hire has to be a fit for the program and both sides buy in to the program and the HC for him to be successful

[DownwardDawg]

Why do people act like Hudd is a decent fall back plan? Maybe as an interim he'd be a fine in game coach, but as the full time HC he'd be bad. Dude is a failed G5 coach, and yet people here haven't adjusted their 5 year old opinions on Hudd to the new facts.

The fact is Hudd is not a better hire than Joey Jones would be. If Hudd hadn't been here before this year we'd view him as we do JJ, namely, by the resume.

"At worst Hudd would take it" = "at worst we get a failed G5 coach that's not even an X's and O's guy". That's pretty bad.

Not understanding this. He?s the best coach in the history of ULL?s program. I know it?s ULL, but just saying.

[DownwardDawg]

Lane Kiffin would walk to Starkville for $3 million a year. He’d leave in a few years, but he wouldn’t turn it down.

[Captain Falcon]

Vandy fired Caldwell after his one 2-10 season and hired James Franklin. Franklin was an OC and considered an up and comer and good recruiter but not on the same level as Moorehead was thought of. And Franklin was about to be looking for a job since the Maryland HC was fired that season.

A right hire has to be a fit for the program and both sides buy in to the program and the HC for him to be successful

Robbie Caldwell was an interim coach. Bobby Johnson retired in mid July before the season started. Not exactly the same situation.

[Really Clark?]

Not understanding this. He?s the best coach in the history of ULL?s program. I know it?s ULL, but just saying.

The issue is that after the NCAA crushed the Saunders connection (which Hud knew exactly what he was getting with Saunders and turned a blind eye) the team took a quick and decisive downturn. He has to rehab his career and move back up through the ranks before getting a shot again.

[Really Clark?]

Robbie Caldwell was an interim coach. Bobby Johnson retired in mid July before the season started. Not exactly the same situation.

Right but the closest in recent memory of a coach just lasting one year and being fired. I wasn’t saying we necessarily should fire a HC after just one season, just thinking of an example where it actually happened. And it’s semantics but the interim tagged was dropped prior to the season and he was given an extension

[DownwardDawg]

Maybe Moorehead will turn this around with his passing QB next season. I just hate we are “rebuilding “ again. This shoulda been a great year but obviously these players don’t fit his system n

[Dawgs87]

I said this for the baseball team too and it may come back to haunt us still. We really have no more info. that Lemonis will do any better with the baseball program than Henderson did. Letting Henderson go abrubtly after 2 years with him taking us almost to the Championship round sent a message to other future good baseball coaches to make them leary of the MSU job......could be why we only had Lemonis left wanting it. Dont know for sure. I do know this......I saw Hendoo with a lot more fire in his belly than Moorhead.

I can't even imagine doing something that foolish. Gary takes over after the season has started in turmoil and goes to the freaking CWS. We reward him by letting him go. That's my cue that IB might not have any clue wtf he's doing. Exactly how many times did IB take any team to Omaha? Oh, the same exact number of times as Gary. What a joke. No, no. Let's hire the guy who's best finish is T-3rd in the B1G and never made it out of a regional.

Great decision making right there.Is this real life?

The bears kept Matt Luke after a 6-6 year. Not saying they had better options, but the point still stands. Is Lemonis objectively a better option? And what objective evidence could possibly lead you to this conclusion?

[Dawgfan77]

And they started 3-2 with losses to us and Troy. And dang near dropped the Syracuse game.

They prob had over 200 yds of offense in each loss.

[Randolph Dupree]

I can't even imagine doing something that foolish. Gary takes over after the season has started in turmoil and goes to the freaking CWS. We reward him by letting him go. That's my cue that IB might not have any clue wtf he's doing. Exactly how many times did IB take any team to Omaha? Oh, the same exact number of times as Gary. What a joke. No, no. Let's hire the guy who's best finish is T-3rd in the B1G and never made it out of a regional.

Great decision making right there.Is this real life?

The bears kept Matt Luke after a 6-6 year. Not saying they had better options, but the point still stands. Is Lemonis objectively a better option? And what objective evidence could possibly lead you to this conclusion?

Lotta baseball jobs got filled this year. Where is Hendo coaching? Hmm...didn't even get on as an assistant anywhere...interesting that nobody else wanted him either.

[ShotgunDawg]

Maybe Moorehead will turn this around with his passing QB next season. I just hate we are “rebuilding “ again. This shoulda been a great year but obviously these players don’t fit his system n

In all of MSU's football years, have we ever gotten better when throwing more?

[BuckyIsAB****]

In all of MSU's football years, have we ever gotten better when throwing more?

No. So stop trying. Be who we are.

[ShotgunDawg]

No. So stop trying. Be who we are.

I agree. Even if that means we lose to Bama every year, it's what we can recruit year in and year out. It makes us competitive and gives us a chance.

[Jack Lambert]

We aren't firing him after one year so what's the point.

I have no way given up. Too much football left to be played.