We All Underestimated How Good Mullen Was

[dawgday166]

Maybe Mullen didn't play aeris then to make the aeris the player he became.

I'm not arguing that point .. just saying that's why I complained then. The thing we lacked in '15 more than anything was a running game.

[MetEdDawg]

Damn you sound like croom after the Tulane game. We have put up 400 yds in 2 games. I have no idea what those other coaches would have done but bet damn sure they would have put up more than 400 yds of offense. Hell Troy won at LSU and at Nebraska this year. App state damn near beat penn state.
I?m sure your a great guy and I respect you all I?m saying is get your head out of the sand and understand we made a bad hire

Then Auburn better fire Malzahn today because he's done as bad as us against worse teams. It just so happens they won because they played Arkansas and Southern Miss.

I'm not rushing to judgment after 5 games. We at least had track record of Croom before Tulane. We literally have less than half a season of Moorhead.

How many of you thought Scott Frost was a good coach? Does Nebraska all of a sudden suck that bad? I don't think so. Takes time folks. We all are shocked when other programs don't give guys time yet some were ready to cut Moorhead after 4 games.

[BrunswickDawg]

You must've been living under a rock for the past 9 months if you don't think a good portion of the fan base underestimated Mullen. Maybe not you, but many many did.

Last 9 months? There are a lot of folks on here being quiet who wanted Mullen gone in 2013, in 2015 and after USA in 2016. I believe they coined phrases like The Country Club, Checkdown Charlie, Danny Two-Gloves, etc.

The absolute worst part of all of this is that all the people outside MSU who believe that Dan Mullen the miracle worker is the only reason MSU could win are for the moment being proven right.

[BB30]

Then Auburn better fire Malzahn today because he's done as bad as us against worse teams. It just so happens they won because they played Arkansas and Southern Miss.

I'm not rushing to judgment after 5 games. We at least had track record of Croom before Tulane. We literally have less than half a season of Moorhead.

How many of you thought Scott Frost was a good coach? Does Nebraska all of a sudden suck that bad? I don't think so. Takes time folks. We all are shocked when other programs don't give guys time yet some were ready to cut Moorhead after 4 games.

Nebraska went 4-8 last year... We won 9 games. Nebraska is a complete rebuild, we are not.

I was one of those that felt we undervalued Mullen the last few years. Obviously if he hadn’t shopped around most years I think the fan base wouldn’t have been as frustrated with him. Is what it is. Hopefully we can get back on track.

I’m here to eat my crow. I really thought we would bounce back this week and win. This is a complete disaster.

Let’s hope our defensive players don’t pack it in for the draft. If they do it could get ugly.

I do think Moorhead could be a decent coach but we are paying for him to learn on the job and that’s not what we needed at this point. Extremely frustrating.

[Coach007]

Don't throw me into "we all" just because you now have a revelation.

[Todd4State]

If Joe doesn't win here he would be the first coach since the 50's to not have a winning season here. A lot of coaches can win here. And if people think a coach that didn't want to be here was going to reach our ceiling- I don't know what to tell people other than that's not right.

[Dawg61]

Is this the losers patting themselves on the back and trying to goat C34 to return thread?

[msstate7]

Is this the losers patting themselves on the back and trying to goat C34 to return thread?

C34 and ISID in hiding. They built this staff up to be belichick level lol

[Coach007]

If Joe doesn't win here he would be the first coach since the 50's to not have a winning season here. A lot of coaches can win here. And if people think a coach that didn't want to be here was going to reach our ceiling- I don't know what to tell people other than that's not right.

Just because a coach has an agent who is doing his job does not mean that he does not want to be here. Is it possible, in your mind, that the agent and the coach knows how fickle a fan base can be and knows that they need to get the money while they can?

Maybe fans will learn.

[Dawg61]

C34 and ISID in hiding. They built this staff up to be belichick level lol

They aren't returning anytime soon so why does everyone keep trying to goat them back onto the board to take some medicine?

[Todd4State]

Just because a coach has an agent who is doing his job does not mean that he does not want to be here. Is it possible, in your mind, that the agent and the coach knows how fickle a fan base can be and knows that they need to get the money while they can?

Maybe fans will learn.

There is a right and a wrong way to do that. Dan did it the wrong way. You don't go active job seeking while your season is still going on. That's unprofessional.

And if you want to be somewhere you don't look for jobs every offseason five years in a row.

[bulldawg28]

I am still a Mullen fan.

[Coach007]

There is a right and a wrong way to do that. Dan did it the wrong way. You don't go active job seeking while your season is still going on. That's unprofessional.

And if you want to be somewhere you don't look for jobs every offseason five years in a row.

No he didn't. Our OWN Coach was in contact with us during the season. That's the way it actually works. That's why those that don't end up WAY behind in recruiting for a year.

Mullen is gone, and that ship has sailed. I'm just saying ya'll got your wish. Now live with the results until we either Moorhead figures it out or we replace him.

[Dawg61]

No he didn't. Our OWN Coach was in contact with us during the season. That's the way it actually works. That's why those that don't end up WAY behind in recruiting for a year.

Mullen is gone, and that ship has sailed. I'm just saying ya'll got your wish. Now live with the results until we either Moorhead figures it out or we replace him.

Mullen let Ole Miss dog piss on our field, intentionally break our QBs ankle, intentionally try to break our backup QBs ankle, totally disrespect our fans and team for 4 quarters on Thanksgiving night and did absolutely nothing to try to stop it. He bolted on Nick without going to check on him in the hospital. He's a forever piece of dog shit for that. 17 Dan Mullen and 17 anyone patting themselves on the back trying to tell other bulldog fans "I told you so" right now. Mullen was offered $6 million dollars a year by us. That's like $12 million dollars in anywhere outside of Starkville money.

[Todd4State]

No he didn't. Our OWN Coach was in contact with us during the season. That's the way it actually works. That's why those that don't end up WAY behind in recruiting for a year.

Mullen is gone, and that ship has sailed. I'm just saying ya'll got your wish. Now live with the results until we either Moorhead figures it out or we replace him.

Don't worry. You can get your wish and get Mullen back in about three years. Which would be the most MSU thing ever. I can live with the results because I know and am OK firing a failing coach at any time. Hiring Rick Ray didn't destroy our basketball program- neither will Joe destroy our football program.

And again there is a right and a wrong way to handle changing jobs. Dan handled it the wrong way. And if he was still here this season would have ended much the same way as 2014-2017.

[Todd4State]

Mullen let Ole Miss dog piss on our field, intentionally break our QBs ankle, intentionally try to break our backup QBs ankle, totally disrespect our fans and team for 4 quarters on Thanksgiving night and did absolutely nothing to try to stop it. He bolted on Nick without going to check on him in the hospital. He's a forever piece of dog shit for that. 17 Dan Mullen and 17 anyone patting themselves on the back trying to tell other bulldog fans "I told you so" right now. Mullen was offered $6 million dollars a year by us. That's like $12 million dollars in anywhere outside of Starkville money.

But you fans don't get it.**

Joe may not be the answer. But as far as growing our program Dan wasn't the answer anymore either.

[ShotgunDawg]

But you fans don't get it.**

Joe may not be the answer. But as far as growing our program Dan wasn't the answer anymore either.

I actually agree with this.

[Liverpooldawg]

Don't worry. You can get your wish and get Mullen back in about three years. Which would be the most MSU thing ever. I can live with the results because I know and am OK firing a failing coach at any time. Hiring Rick Ray didn't destroy our basketball program- neither will Joe destroy our football program.

And again there is a right and a wrong way to handle changing jobs. Dan handled it the wrong way. And if he was still here this season would have ended much the same way as 2014-2017.

If you hope he won't win at Florida you are going to be very disappointed.

[msstate7]

I actually agree with this.

We hit our ceiling under Mullen. We may not hit it again for a long time

[Liverpooldawg]

I?ve never said Mullen wasn?t good, but it wasn?t anything he did special to beat us. It was the bumbling giant on our sideline that did that.

They totally changed their approach at half time. Florida was a train wreck last year. They aren't good now, but the improvement is remarkable.