How Soon Can We Realistically....

[Todd4State]

November 2019. Who would we hire? There aren't many coaches out there that can be successful in the SEC, and even fewer that would be successful at Mississippi State. The odds of us hiring a coach that could win here is small.

Neal Brown.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

As bothrops said, "who would we hire"? An unproven G5 coach? An unproven coordinator? Who would take the job when they know that they literally won't get to have a fill recruiting cycle before being fired if year 1 is bad? That's a standard even Tennessee isn't putting on Pruitt. FSU probably won't fire Taggart and they have way more money than us. I'm not saying Moorhead is the guy, but to fire him you do have to answer "who do you replace him with?"

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Neal Brown.

Neil Brown will have P5 offers this year that don't came with a "win in year one or you're gone" standard. No team does that.

[NCDawg]

Neal Brown.

Should have hired him in the first place.

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Another clown. We don't need clowns

I would take Leach yesterday over the clowns we got. Bring on the Pirate!

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

As bothrops said, "who would we hire"? An unproven G5 coach? An unproven coordinator? Who would take the job when they know that they literally won't get to have a fill recruiting cycle before being fired if year 1 is bad? That's a standard even Tennessee isn't putting on Pruitt. FSU probably won't fire Taggart and they have way more money than us. I'm not saying Moorhead is the guy, but to fire him you do have to answer "who do you replace him with?"

Exactly

[BuckyIsAB****]

Mike leach

His offense is extremely simple

[Todd4State]

Neil Brown will have P5 offers this year that don't came with a "win in year one or you're gone" standard. No team does that.

Then we need to come up with a scandal to get rid of him. Where's is Lee Begley?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Neil Brown will have P5 offers this year that don't came with a "win in year one or you're gone" standard. No team does that.

No other teams were as stacked as ours did. Nobody told him win the west or you're gone. We told him be competent or you're gone. He's not.

I remember reading a lot of 6-6 and he should be fired predictions on this board

[BuckyIsAB****]

I would take Leach yesterday over the clowns we got. Bring on the Pirate!

We would win. Idk if we would ever win big big but we would be a consistent winner and would score. Defense would worry me

[Dawgfan77]

How many head coaches get canned after one year? What makes us the exception that can do that?

Don?t play into that process this ain?t 1990. Coaches and agents knew what joe was stepping into. We fire him at the EOY cause he couldn?t win with the talent we have. It?s gonna have to be done. We can not afford to keep him. Hell with the investment in Starkville Cohn can it afford to keep joe.
So no he doesn?t deserve the time and he doesn?t deserve this job. I would make a move Monday and promote HUD as interm

[RocketDawg]

Whenever it happens....SPEND MONEY...just a thought

May not have it to spend. Losing means donations drop, perhaps dramatically.

[Dawg61]

Mike leach

I'll support this under one condition. We build a Goonies Pirate ship and put it in the stadium complete with cannons like the Tampa Bay Bucs have. Also minimum of 10,000 MSU fans must dress as pirates for home games.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

No other teams were as stacked as ours did. Nobody told him win the west or you're gone. We told him be competent or you're gone. He's not.

I remember reading a lot of 6-6 and he should be fired predictions on this board

Again, you're laying out the case to fire Moorhead, not that we have someone lined up. I'm not firing Moorhead after 1 year to replace him with Dooley or Croom. We have to have someone with a reasonable shot at turning out, else ride Moorhead and hope he fixes his flaws.

Again though, name me any team that fires it's coaches after year 1. Nebraska will go 2-10 this year. FSU won't make a bowl. Tennessee will win 3 games. UCLA hasn't won yet. Arkansas will go 3-9 assuming they can win a conference game. Most of these teams recruit better than us and have no business begin that bad. Most of them have way more money than us to handle buyouts and new salaries. Nobody is being fired though. There is a reason for it- you'd never get a coach with options to take the job again.

[smootness]

As bothrops said, "who would we hire"? An unproven G5 coach? An unproven coordinator? Who would take the job when they know that they literally won't get to have a fill recruiting cycle before being fired if year 1 is bad? That's a standard even Tennessee isn't putting on Pruitt. FSU probably won't fire Taggart and they have way more money than us. I'm not saying Moorhead is the guy, but to fire him you do have to answer "who do you replace him with?"

These situations aren't even close to comparable. Tennessee won 0 SEC games last year.

[msstate7]

These situations aren't even close to comparable. Tennessee won 0 SEC games last year.

Don't disturb the Moorhead apologists

[Dawg61]

Don't disturb the Moorhead apologists

He hasn't coached enough games to even have apologists yet.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Don?t play into that process this ain?t 1990. Coaches and agents knew what joe was stepping into. We fire him at the EOY cause he couldn?t win with the talent we have. It?s gonna have to be done. We can not afford to keep him. Hell with the investment in Starkville Cohn can it afford to keep joe.
So no he doesn?t deserve the time and he doesn?t deserve this job. I would make a move Monday and promote HUD as interm

It ain't 1990, and still no other program fires their coach after one season aside from USM going 0fer with Ellis Johnson. So again, what makes us different from literally any other program in the nation that would allow us to get away with doing that?

[msstate7]

He hasn't coached enough games to even have apologists yet.

I hope he doesn't at MSU

[Cooterpoot]

The Rick Ray of football.