Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
This is why you are setting yourself up to be a total idiot -- and a whole bunch of us can't wait. You don't "know" what you've seen is "shit". What the logical among us have seen is a lack of depth and upper-class leadership, with talented players playing before they are ready -- and wearing down as years went on.

You DO NEED to be 100% certain that "Ray is not the guy" before you make any damn decisions. This is what's so stupid about your position.

EVERYONE has considered this "possibility". The problem is with your approach as if it's some sort of "factuality" instead of a "possibility".

It's amazing that despite probably 5,000 words -- you STILL don't understand my point with the Cohen analogies. Let me try it for the 90238409238th time -- A BUNCH of the geniuses in our fanbase thought we had made a mistake hiring him for 2 years. They thought we should fire him after year 2. They thought he was terrible. They cussed him and bitched about literally EVERYTHING. Then, they were wrong. Then, they pretended they were ALWAYS on board with the hire. For the most part, it's the same exact people bitching about Ray -- and KNOWING he won't get it done. They are ignorant to the fact that they were ignorant the last time. And no amount of pasted posts from them bashing Cohen and calling for his head will change their mind or make them "get" the similarity to what they are doing with Ray. It's funny -- EVERYONE that possess even marginal logic understand exactly the point of the analogy. While the sky is falling crowd persist in not understanding -- and doing the same exact thing that posterized them the first time.
Being dunked in a bucket of shit isn't the point. I am not calling Ray a bucket of shit. I don't need to be in a car accident to know what one is either. Whatever analogy you want to use here. I don't need to eat a bowl of ice cream to know it is ice cream. Better? I don't know for 100% that Ray isn't the guy but that doesn't mean I am going to ignore all the signs telling me he isn't. You haven't discussed one single sign since he took the job. That is what frustrates me about this. You won't admit that Ray is showing signs himself that he is indeed not the right guy for the job.

Your deal with Cohen and posters is an issue you have with some posters previous posting habits. Address that issue with those posters specifically when talking to them instead of continually making blanket statements about how "people were wrong with Cohen and look what he's done so they will be wrong with Ray too". Unless you're specifically addressing a specific poster and say it in your post I don't see how baseball correlates to basketball and same with football. Address posters and please stop evaluating hiring decisions because one sport is successful so the other sport will be too.