Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
WE had two 5-7 seasons with Mullen along with a two 6-6 seasons. People still sold out the stadium. Same stadium too. I get we were winning a bit more but we were having sell outs. Moorhead went 8-4 his first year and 6-6 his second and the stadium was empty. Leach went 7-5 and 8-4 in his two seasons he was allowed to have crowds and the stadium was empty. So it's not winning or losing. It's something else. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean what constitutes the product being good or crappy? Because it's obviously not wins and losses so what is it?
Bottomline is we don't win the games that raise any attention. Yeah we may have a decent year where we beat the OM, Arkansas, Auburns, A&M's and KY and sometimes a LSU win. Like we expect to. But then we drop so many opportunities it's very hard to get your hopes up and get excited about MSU football. We've constantly for well over a decade had momentum and some how drop a head scratcher or get blown out by Bama and it's just the same ole thing every year. We didn't even score a TD against them for 3 effing years straight.

Win the games that we shouldn't and put EVERYONE on notice. Instead we shit the bed when we finally have the media's attention or a primetime game. It's like clockwork.

Basketball sort of has the same bug but you could really see the fans engage this past year with our success. But we still dropped so many games when we finally get media attention or they rank us.

Why would the media hype us at all like you see them hype OM? Because OM pulls off that Bama upset once in a blue moon. And they are at least usually competitive with them. For several years after Freeze beat saban back to back that game was super hyped up. But each year after it died down some and now it's not really the same focus on it.

The first year of the CFP when we were ranked. A couple of years after 2014 you would see the banner M logo floating around in the background like we had a shot to replicate the magic. Now they'd be fired for flashing our logo up on the commercials.

You think we had all that hype in 2014 because we marketed ourselves a certain way and gave the fans off the field entertainment at games.

I'd happily drive down 5 hours to a game or two one weekend if I thought we had a chance to win. There's zero chance at all I'll waste my time this year.