Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
Will we? We aren't beating auburn, aTm, Bama, and LSU with recruiting. We'll have to beat them with experience and coaching. We can't outcoach or out talent bama, so cancel them off the list. aTm has upgraded coaching and is in the process of upgrading talent. LSU is staying an elite recruiter, but they do have coaching question marks. Auburn is a great recruiting program, but terribly inconsistent.

I look at the recipe you laid out as OM's, but they topped out even higher than top 15. They had a dynamic offense with a good coach. They did beat Bama, but it still didn't get them a west title. The grind of the sec west takes supreme talent, great coaching, and luck to win the west over saban. I don't see it happening for us as long saban is there
If we recruit every year inside the Top 25 with 1 out of 4 being Top 2", Moorhead wins more games over 9 years than Mullen did.

Moorhead is in a crap spot honestly. He's got 6 programs in his division that spend more money in recruiting and at least 4 that spend way more money on coaching.. But his predecessor maximized the output far above what we should reasonably get from what Mullen brought in.

But Mullen only averaged 7 regular season wins per year. I don't know how long our fan base would keep Moorhead if he averaged 8 regular season wins per year but never won 10 regular season games. That would be a major improvement for our program to average 8 per year, but with the strength of Bama, LSU, Auburn, and TAMU it's highly conceivable that could be his path the next 5 years.

Moorhead is going to have it tough at MSU. I can't find anyone that gives me a logical reason why we should expect to consistently beat the 4 teams mentioned. They spend way more than we do in all areas. They recruit way better. They make more money. They have much greater football history and they have better coaches. Now I know we develop talent better, but that's not really measurable.

For Moorhead to come in and win an average of 8 games would be big for us. But I don't know that our fan base will want him around long if he can't throw in multiple 9 or 10 win regular seasons. And he's gonna have to average around #20 in recruiting to reasonably be asked to compete with those teams every single year.