Mingo to the plantation

[shannondawg]

Does ***** mean what I think it does? Powerful recruiting tool.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

New staff, new rules. Also when they visit our SEC games being played at night with the stadium full and they a have to compare it to Ole Miss Stadium half empty. I like our chances. Ole Miss is not going to be good and judging by the lack of season ticket sells and the spring game attendance at Ole Miss, they are going have to throw money and ***** at them.

I think you just killed your point. OM recruits aren't committing because of the atmosphere, elite staff, NFL history, or projected future wins. They are committing because the $$$ are higher... maybe a little because the depth chart is bad so they'll see the field sooner. Neither of those things goes away by a bad year with lo ticket sales. Guys who commit to South Carolina are probably more interested in attendance and W-L than OM commits are, for example. Our recruits are being sold on building a SEC contender, and so if we somehow went 6-6 we'd lose more recruits than OM would going 5-7.

Now, will some OM recruits be turned off by the on-field performance? Maybe a few. We can hope Mingo is one of them. However I don't think it'll be a big deal overall for the class

[CadaverDawg]

Glad this past weekend wasn't our big recruiting weekend. Can't wait for that weekend*

[Beaver]

I don't see a good reason for all of this whining. Ole Miss is going to suck at football this year. Ole Miss is going to suck at football next year. If Moorhead can win the games Mullen couldn't, the recruiting will take care of itself.

[gravedigger]

Yep, afraid this class is going to fall right back into the mid to low 20s just like most of Mullen's classes. It may not be country club recruiting but looks like we may end up with about the same results. How is Moorhead gonna run a 3 WR offense when he can't get our share of the top WRs in our recruiting area?

Probably by not giving a $!@$ about what Yancy and Steve think are top recruiting classes.

[whosyourdawgy]

Looking at 247 composite rankings Ole Miss is 13th with 27 commits(6 4*). We are now sitting at 19th with the loss of Jackson with 16 commits(6 4*). We still have the higher avg per player. If they had 16 commits w their 6 4*’s they’d be below us still. The ONLY reason they are 13th is the number of commits. Period. Even with the 2 stid wr’s and olineman from today. Quit freakin the f#$& out before the season even gets under way. We are still in solid shape in my opinion and have the best recruiters we’ve had in a long long time

[Mutt the Hoople]

If we're 9-3/10-2 and om is 1-11, look for some flipping.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Probably by not giving a $!@$ about what Yancy and Steve think are top recruiting classes.

If the staff was targeting Scurry over Mingo/Jackson, then I'd agree with you that we should trust their evaluations. However, the staff is targeting Mingo and Jackson; they themselves have said those are the elite WRs this class. If we miss on them it's only rational to say the WR's we got are lesser. Same with any non-Emery RB, or any low 3* OL we take late. I'm letting the staffs' own actions tell me who's the best players, and I'll judge our final class by how far down the board we have to go to fill out the class

[KOdawg1]

If we're 9-3/10-2 and om is 1-11, look for some flipping.

Joe needs to beat that ass on Thanksgiving. Go into their house and run the score up. Then call Jackson and Mingo and ask them what's up

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Looking at 247 composite rankings Ole Miss is 13th with 27 commits(6 4*). We are now sitting at 19th with the loss of Jackson with 16 commits(6 4*). We still have the higher avg per player. If they had 16 commits w their 6 4*’s they’d be below us still. The ONLY reason they are 13th is the number of commits. Period. Even with the 2 stid wr’s and olineman from today. Quit freakin the f#$& out before the season even gets under way. We are still in solid shape in my opinion and have the best recruiters we’ve had in a long long time

Nobody is saying OM has the better class. However, I want OM to be 0-12 every year for eternity. I'f they are recruiting only slightly worse than us, that means it will be hard fr us to separate yourself on the flied which makes it harder to separate ourselves in them minds of recruits.

Also, it isn't just that OM is getting good player, it's who those players are. They've flipped 2 and won a battle with another, 2 of those being at positions of need for us. Their success is not just making them better, but making us worse

[ShotgunDawg]

Sigh.... another 4 years watching OM chuck it all over the damn field to elite receivers while we play with our spuds

The WRs they are getting aren't close to what they're losing. Don't forget that.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't see a good reason for all of this whining. Ole Miss is going to suck at football this year. Ole Miss is going to suck at football next year. If Moorhead can win the games Mullen couldn't, the recruiting will take care of itself.

Yes, but we are losing players to them that will play meaningless careers at OM that would get us closer to Atlanta

[Lord McBuckethead]

Amen. If dude wants to go there, so be it. It's his choice.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Also note, with AJ Brown they are only going to win 6 games maybe. No one they have committed is as good as that dude.

[TrapGame]

Nothing will ever change with ole miss. This kind of shit has been happening for a long time.

[Jack Lambert]

Also note, with AJ Brown they are only going to win 6 games maybe. No one they have committed is as good as that dude.

Just think where state would be this season if AJ came to here. I am sure on some level he regrets his decision.

[ShotgunDawg]

Just think where state would be this season if AJ came to here. I am sure on some level he regrets his decision.

This is why we should be upset.

WRs are choosing play meaninglessness careers there instead of competing for championships here.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Just think where state would be this season if AJ came to here. I am sure on some level he regrets his decision.

Exactly, if AJ was here we should be ranked at least 5 spots higher than we should as is. That's why all this "who cares?" "if they want to go to OM we don't want them" and "So what if they get this recruit/ Our class overall is still better" is dumb. One player can be the difference you need. Saban and Kirby and Meyer and Dabo don't go "sweet, got 20 good players commited already... lets just take 5 scrubs to fill out the class since those guys don't matter". They still push for the best possible players in every slot because they know the 25th player in a class could be the difference. Mingo, Jackson, Black, their losses could easily wind up costing us games. To say they don't matter is dumb

[Pit Bull]

"Who dat say we out cruit' dem bears....who dat?....who dat? Who dat say we out pay dem bears?....who dat?...who dat? Who dat say dem dogs eat sharks?....who dat? who dat? Who dat say Rosebowl ain't shit....who dat...who dat"

[BuckyIsAB****]

Please tell me the 4-star WRs or OL we will get.

And for the record, I've said we will be fine as long as we continue to coach well. I never bought into this fantasy that we are becoming a borderline top 10 type recruiting team. We aren't. We won't. We can still be a good program, but great is a pipe dream. Mullen was great for our program. He wasn't this alleged weight holding us down

If Mullen is still the HC at MSU we dont have Cunningham, Russell, Ani, Pickering, or Jones committed. Think what you want but that is a fact