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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
When an NFL player is walked off a field after it appears they've suffered a concussion it takes a couple minutes and they are supported by several doctors as they walk or when something like what happened with Nick last night happens they don't move them at all because they fear it's a neck injury (which they reported immediately) and it takes 5-10 minutes before they are taken off the field. So you are wrong.
Guys are moved off the field after they have been evaluated and then it has been determined that it is safe to do so. Nick has a broken pelvis, he damn well couldn't move or move without significant assistance. He had also hit is head on the initial fall the refs and no one f'ed this up about as bad as could have been f'ed up. Incompetence on display and a total lack of concern for player safety.
The only way for the SEC and others to get better officials in every sport is to start openly evaluating them and then culling the poor performers, like the group last night and multiple others this year. The players and coaches get instant feedback and accountability, the officials have absolutely none. In the real world very few workers can screw up like a NCAA ref and have their boss come to their rescue time and time again. sooner or later it have to get fixed - likely if UK gets screwed in BB or Bama gets called for holding twice in a game.
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May have a pelvic fracture. I would say that’s injured pretty bad
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Can't fault the refs when Nick's own teammates and coach haven't stopped themselves or made the refs stop the play yet either
Blaming this on our coaches or players is asinine. What is Howland supposed to do? If he goes out on the court it?s an automatic T. He couldn?t call timeout due to how Peters got the ball and quickly flipped it to Q for the layup. This is all totally on the officiating crew who could stop play with no penalty to either team and should have stopped play.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully
Blaming this on our coaches or players is asinine.
I'm not blaming it on anyone cause there's no blame to be put on anyone. It was just a freak accident that happened during the nature of play.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I'm not blaming it on anyone cause there's no blame to be put on anyone. It was just a freak accident that happened during the nature of play.
You just said it in your post! You were saying it’s just as much our coaches and players fault as it is the refs and that is the dumbest most asinine take I have seen on Elitedawgs ever.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully
You just said it in your post! You were saying it’s just as much our coaches and players fault as it is the refs and that is the dumbest most asinine take I have seen on Elitedawgs ever.
I didn't say it was the ref's fault or our players or our coaches fault. Learn to comprehend better. Again it is nobody's fault. Quit looking to place blame on a freak accident.
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This is ABSOLUTELY an issue for the refs. Or the absolute dereliction of duty of being an official.
You hear those bells mother-fudder....an Air-RAID is coming and that is yo ass!
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Nice statement, problem is its a flat out LIE. As usual in the SEC, no accountability when it comes to officiating. Wouldn't be surprised to see them back out calling a game today.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I'm not blaming it on anyone cause there's no blame to be put on anyone. It was just a freak accident that happened during the nature of play.
Its not a freak accident. A freak accident is when you are walking and no reason just flip an ankle.
By not removing him from that spot raised the potential for injury.
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Originally Posted by
Coach007
Its not a freak accident. A freak accident is when you are walking and no reason just flip an ankle.
By not removing him from that spot raised the potential for injury.
Ten seconds transpired in between Nick going to the ground and the two players landing on him. The sequence of events happened too quickly for the refs to make the call to stop the game. Had there been a couple moments of slow play or pause than perhaps they are able to stop the game to address the player still laying on the court but that didn't happen in those ten seconds.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Ten seconds transpired in between Nick going to the ground and the two players landing on him. The sequence of events happened too quickly for the refs to make the call to stop the game. Had there been a couple moments of slow play or pause than perhaps they are able to stop the game to address the player still laying on the court but that didn't happen in those ten seconds.
I was there. It was obvious. Only the players couldn?t see it. The refs should have stopped the game on our steal and stood over Nick to protect him. End of story.
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It's obvious play should have been stopped. Not stopping caused a player to be seriously hurt. What else is there to discuss?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I'm not blaming it on anyone cause there's no blame to be put on anyone. It was just a freak accident that happened during the nature of play.
When you have a helpless player lying in the field of play/court you stop play. You damn sure stop it when his team gets the ball. Those refs are lucky there wasn't something catastrophic that resulted from their incompetence. No surprise that you think they did nothing wrong and are vehemently defending them. It confirms what I think of your judgment in most topics.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Ten seconds transpired in between Nick going to the ground and the two players landing on him. The sequence of events happened too quickly for the refs to make the call to stop the game. Had there been a couple moments of slow play or pause than perhaps they are able to stop the game to address the player still laying on the court but that didn't happen in those ten seconds.
10 seconds is too quick? If it is they have no business wearing the stripes. They are expected to make snap judgements much quicker than that as a matter of routine by definition. The argument you are making here excuses us all from ever considering you to be a intelligent poster again. Confirms everything I have ever thought about you. If a ref can't make a decision in ONE second he is by definition incompetent.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
confirms what I think of your judgment in most topics.
Wait... you're saying 61 has judgment?!
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
When you have a helpless player lying in the field of play/court you stop play. You damn sure stop it when his team gets the ball. Those refs are lucky there wasn't something catastrophic that resulted from their incompetence. No surprise that you think they did nothing wrong and are vehemently defending them. It confirms what I think of your judgment in most topics.

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
10 seconds is too quick? If it is they have no business wearing the stripes. They are expected to make snap judgements much quicker than that as a matter of routine by definition. The argument you are making here excuses us all from ever considering you to be a intelligent poster again. Confirms everything I have ever thought about you. If a ref can't make a decision in ONE second he is by definition incompetent.
Calm down Liverpool. You are asking the refs to make an unprecedented judgement call that goes specifically against what they have been instructed to do. Lobby for a rule change fine but blaming the refs for not doing something they have never been expected to do before is ridiculous. It's not like Nick was laying at the free throw line. He was laying out of bounds.
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Originally Posted by
AlmostPositive
Wait... you're saying 61 has judgment?!
Obviously I posted before I thought.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Calm down Liverpool. You are asking the refs to make an unprecedented judgement call that goes specifically against what they have been instructed to do. Lobby for a rule change fine but blaming the refs for not doing something they have never been expected to do before is ridiculous. It's not like Nick was laying at the free throw line. He was laying out of bounds.
Unprecedented? Hogwash. Officials in every sport are required to place player safety first. Nick was NOT out of bounds. That confirmed that you are just mouthing off about something you have no real knowledge about. He was partially inbounds directly under the goal. It was a virtually certainty he would be stepped on if play came back to that goal. That you are taking this side in this arguement is SO you. I don't understand why and never will.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Unprecedented? Hogwash. Officials in every sport are required to place player safety first. Nick was NOT out of bounds. That confirmed that you are just mouthing off about something you have no real knowledge about. He was partially inbounds directly under the goal. It was a virtually certainty he would be stepped on if play came back to that goal. That you are taking this side in this arguement is SO you. I don't understand why and never will.
I'm not a fan of you having your pitchforks out trying to create more drama out of an unfortunate play. It's over man let it rest. Nobody on the planet wanted Nick to get hurt including the refs.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully
You just said it in your post! You were saying it’s just as much our coaches and players fault as it is the refs and that is the dumbest most asinine take I have seen on Elitedawgs ever.
Yep, great post.
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