Men's College Basketball Is a Bad Product

[ShotgunDawg]

Hi, my name is Gun.

I support MSU in all things but am completely indifferent to the sport of basketball. I don't really like it or dislike it, &, unless MSU is playing, it's a completely irrelevant part of my life.

That being said, I am the exact type of fan college basketball needs to be targeting if the sport is to grow. I am somewhat invested, due to MSU & willing to watch under certain circumstances. The structure of the game SHOULD be trying to draw me in.

That being said, after watching the grace, rhythm & crispness of the lady's game last night & comparing that to the rugby match I am currently watching, men's basketball is a bad product played by exceptional athletes.

Problem is, I'm not really sure how we got here. I remember the game having rhythm with Darrell Wilson, Ray Allen, Timmy Bowers, & now all is see is are great athletes with no skill playing rugby.

Perhaps the one & done & transfers has created a landscape where so many teams are young & lack year to year continuity, that they just simply lack the time & chemistry to develop a pretty game.

However, in the girls game, they stay for 4 years & you know their names. Teams build over time, rivalries develop, etc.

Sign me up for watching girls basketball, because the men's version is painful on my eyes.

[msstate7]

Nice grouping ray Allen in there with 2 really good state players haha

[ShotgunDawg]

Nice grouping ray Allen in there with 2 really good state players haha

Just trying to make a larger point.

[ShotgunDawg]

There are bodies on the ground. I repeat, there are bodies on the ground in this game.

[msstate7]

There are bodies on the ground. I repeat, there are bodies on the ground in this game.

Need pads

[RocketDawg]

If nothing else, this is the most physical game we've had this year. Moreso in some respects than some of our football games. **

[ShotgunDawg]

If nothing else, this is the most physical game we've had this year. Moreso in some respects than some of our football games. **

It's just really hard to watch.

I wonder if college basketball would benefit by moving the 3 point like back a little so that the players are more spread out?

[Coach34]

I actually agree. Basketball has turned to shit the last 10 years

[Dawg61]

Hey look people are enjoying a basketball game I think you should explain why basketball sucks. Oh nvm you do that after every game.

[AlmostPositive]

I used to love it. Now I can't watch.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hey look people are enjoying a basketball game I think you should explain why basketball sucks. Oh nvm you do that after every game.

I very much love watching MSU win, but, for entertainment value, the sport currently sucks.

The girls play a more watchable game imo.

[Dawgface]

Agree. Never thought I would enjoy watching girls basketball but it is more fun to watch than the guys.

[msstate7]

I was glued to the game. Of course I never missed a Rick ray game though. I love state basketball

[BuckyIsAB****]

If everything wasnt a foul it would be better. I dont think its anything but refs wanting to blow the whistle and be seen. Tonight was pitiful by the refs

[ShotgunDawg]

I was glued to the game. Of course I never missed a Rick ray game though. I love state basketball

And this is fine. You are a true fan while I am not.

The game keeps a purist like yourself no matter what.

[thf24]

It has more to do with how the game is officiated at this point in time than anything. The NCAA claims the officiating tendencies implemented over the past few years are to make the game smoother and more fan friendly, but if that's what they think their direction is resulting in then they don't know what they actually want or how to accomplish it. There's plenty of skill in college basketball, it's just that there's not much incentive right now to use a high degree of it over just trying to out-athlete the other guy.

[msstate7]

And this is fine. You are a true fan while I am not.

The game keeps a purist like yourself no matter what.

To be fair, you have a point bc I never miss a state game, but I rarely watch games outside the sec

[Dawg61]

I very much love watching MSU win, but, for entertainment value, the sport currently sucks.

The girls play a more watchable game imo.

The thing is Shotgun you've made this thread multiple times before so you're just throwing shade on a sunny day when people are trying to enjoy a game. This is the biggest win MSU has had in the last seven years.

[ShotgunDawg]

The thing is Shotgun you've made this thread multiple times before so you're just throwing shade on a sunny day when people are trying to enjoy a game. This is the biggest win MSU has had in the last seven years.

I started this thread long before the game ended.

I’m super excited about the win but that has nothing to do with my post.

Not sure if I’ve watched enough basketball over the past 5 years to make this post.

[Dawg61]

I started this thread long before the game ended.

I’m super excited about the win but that has nothing to do with my post.

Not sure if I’ve watched enough basketball over the past 5 years to make this post.

The problem with college basketball has been discussed ad nauseam in the last decade. There's 3 main reasons why it's become a declining product.

1. The NBA's one and done rule poaches the top 30-40 players every year. The NBA doesn't have a sustainable minor league system like baseball either so players are forced to leave early if they are going to get drafted. They can't wait and risk losing their spot. NBA teams don't like to draft upperclassmen or graduates as much as they like to draft on potential.

2. The AAU game has totally corrupted and destroyed high school basketball causing a rippling effect into the college game. Players play for themselves to try to get ranked as high as possible so the NBA will draft them. They have about a two year window to get drafted high in or they are ****ed so they are forced to play selfish basketball instead of disciplined team basketball.

3. The officiating is horrible in college basketball on purpose to try and improve the shooting from the players before they go to the NBA. They basically don't want the defender to touch the shooter at all ever which helps the offensive players to learn how to shoot as best as possible before they go to the NBA. The NBA gives zero ****s that they are destroying college basketball and apparently college basketball also gives zero ****s that the NBA is destroying their product. Somebody is giving the NCAA billions of dollars to put out a lesser product than it had 20 years ago and the NCAA bends over and takes it with a smile.

Everyone has complained up and down for years and years about this but there's nothing getting done because people investing the most money in it want it this way.